<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726</id><updated>2012-02-01T17:18:59.038-08:00</updated><category term='printing press'/><category term='images'/><category term='sapir-whorf'/><category term='psalms'/><category term='spiritual warfare'/><category term='movies'/><category term='kierkegaard'/><category term='metaphor'/><category term='jewish'/><category term='Ellul'/><category term='james k.a. smith'/><category term='death'/><category term='david dark'/><category term='rob bell'/><category term='wolfgang simson'/><category term='art'/><category term='ehrman'/><category term='derrida'/><category term='clerical clothing'/><category term='holy worldliness'/><category term='sa'/><category term='string theory'/><category term='peru'/><category term='holocaust'/><category term='adbusters'/><category term='Joao Magueijo'/><category term='margaret wheatley'/><category term='capon'/><category term='sarcastic lutheran'/><category term='paraguay'/><category term='Žižek'/><category term='ecclesiology'/><category term='anabaptist'/><category term='pioneer'/><category term='sermon on the mount'/><category term='celtic'/><category term='economic'/><category term='reformation'/><category term='holy fool'/><category term='Colbert'/><category term='paul hiebert'/><category term='Spirit Christology'/><category term='zappa'/><category term='xxx church'/><category term='TNIV'/><category term='empire'/><category term='christian bookstore'/><category term='shane  claiborne'/><category term='violet burning'/><category term='language'/><category term='role'/><category term='reading the Bible'/><category term='cathedrals'/><category term='third places'/><category term='epistemology'/><category term='Leonard Sweet'/><category term='brian dodd'/><category term='role of the pastor'/><category term='The Matrix'/><category term='U2'/><category term='time travel'/><category term='missional sacraments'/><category term='rohr'/><category term='radiohead'/><category term='Lessig'/><category term='moltmann'/><category term='U2 2000s'/><category term='sabbath'/><category term='spiritual formation'/><category term='U2 devotionals'/><category term='architecture'/><category term='spirituality of music'/><category term='co'/><category term='media'/><category term='technology'/><category term='bibliolatry'/><category term='self-disclosure'/><category term='lament'/><category term='apostolic'/><category term='apocalyptic'/><category term='simulacra'/><category term='neruda'/><category term='leadership'/><category term='zoo tv'/><category term='pickover'/><category term='Pete Rollins'/><category term='last night on earth'/><category term='pornography'/><category term='Luther'/><category term='social networking'/><category term='king&apos;s x'/><category term='elevation'/><category term='liminality'/><category term='trinity'/><category term='sinead o&apos;connor'/><category term='neal postman'/><category term='revelation'/><category term='U2 1980s'/><category term='Chris Seay'/><category term='pink floyd'/><category term='being white'/><category term='sexuality'/><category term='physics'/><category term='hofstadter'/><category term='u2 1990s'/><category term='Craig Keener'/><category term='the frames'/><category term='words about words'/><category term='book reviews'/><category term='lamott'/><category term='Phyllis Tickle'/><category term='synesthesia'/><category term='culture wars'/><category term='shane hipps'/><category term='chiasm/inclusio'/><category term='translation'/><category term='ray van der laan'/><category term='parables'/><category term='sound theory'/><category term='duende'/><category term='women in leadership'/><category term='tr'/><category term='n.t. wright'/><category term='imagination'/><category term='centered sets'/><category term='prostitutes'/><category term='communitas'/><category term='listening'/><category term='letterman'/><category term='Leonard Shlain'/><category term='eugene peterson'/><category term='macphisto'/><category term='Brueggemann'/><category term='Ray Bradbury'/><category term='the voice'/><category term='Mark DeRaud'/><category term='twitter'/><category term='temple tantrum'/><category term='fresno drop'/><category term='U2 2010s'/><category term='bongolese'/><category term='TED'/><category term='certainty'/><title type='text'>holy heteroclite:</title><subtitle type='html'>Welcome!  You have accidentally reached the blog of &lt;a href="http://tiny.cc/hete"&gt;heteroclite&lt;/a&gt; dave wainscott,
&lt;u&gt; &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/09/sts-sudzi-and-tim-pushing-tward.html"&gt;"pushing toward the unobvious"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;
re: missional church and culture. Special emphases: temple tantrums, time travel, sexuality/spirituality, U2-kklesia, pastorology, God-hauntedness in arts/music ..and  &lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://3dff.com/pages/zheaven.htm"&gt;subversive videos like this&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;...</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>3046</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-6096366971861221003</id><published>2012-01-30T22:13:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-30T22:35:40.351-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ecclesiology'/><title type='text'>church is not "called out ones," but "something tangible you can live in"</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;Frank Viola ( see "&lt;a class="l" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2009/03/frank-viola-impersonates-dirty.html" style="background-color: white; color: #1122cc; cursor: pointer; font-family: arial, sans-serif; white-space: nowrap;"&gt;Frank&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="font-style: normal;"&gt;Viola&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;impersonates Dirty Harry/talks community&lt;/a&gt;"),&amp;nbsp;from t&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/blog-post.html"&gt;he book on the left &lt;/a&gt;in this photo:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"&gt;“Our English word church is translated from the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Rv31td_U1js/TxZvjfhqouI/AAAAAAAAF2g/xb55d2meGJA/s1600/cover.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="238" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Rv31td_U1js/TxZvjfhqouI/AAAAAAAAF2g/xb55d2meGJA/s320/cover.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"&gt;Greek word &lt;i&gt;ekklesia.&lt;/i&gt; When we hear the word church, one of the following images usually pops into our heads: a building with a steeple on it; a Sunday morning service; a denomination; a pastor; a pulpit; pews; a worship team (or choir); and a sermon. Or we think of all the Christians in the entire world&lt;br /&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"&gt;Like &lt;i&gt;‘nice&lt;/i&gt;’ and ‘&lt;i&gt;pagan,&lt;/i&gt;’ the word ekklesia has morphed since the first century. Back then, it did not mean “called out ones” as is sometimes taught. Consistently, the word meant a local community of people who assemble together regularly. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px;"&gt;The word was used for the Greek assembly whereby those in the community were “called forth” from their private lives to meet (assemble) in the town forum to make decisions for their city. Consequently, the word also carries the flavor of every-member participation in decision-making. According to the New Testament, the church of Jesus Christ is not a place where one buries the dead and marries the living. It’s a community of people who gather together and who possess a shared life in Christ. As such, the ekklesia is visible, touchable, locatable, and tangible. You can visit it. You can observe it. And you can live in it.” -&lt;a href="http://frankviola.org/2009/09/29/kingdom-confusion-part-ii/"&gt;Frank Viola, “From Eternity to Here”, pp. 280-281&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-6096366971861221003?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/6096366971861221003/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/church-is-not-called-out-ones-but.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6096366971861221003'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6096366971861221003'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/church-is-not-called-out-ones-but.html' title='church is not &quot;called out ones,&quot; but &quot;something tangible you can live in&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Rv31td_U1js/TxZvjfhqouI/AAAAAAAAF2g/xb55d2meGJA/s72-c/cover.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-6357892148426471868</id><published>2012-01-30T22:02:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-30T22:02:53.834-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality of music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lament'/><title type='text'>"the laws of remorse are restored..Vengeance belongs to the bored/Lord"</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&amp;amp;ix=hea&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;ion=1#sclient=psy-ab&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;site=webhp&amp;amp;source=hp&amp;amp;q=%22holy%20heteroclite%22%20%22Leonard%20Cohen%22&amp;amp;pbx=1&amp;amp;oq=&amp;amp;aq=&amp;amp;aqi=&amp;amp;aql=&amp;amp;gs_sm=&amp;amp;gs_upl=&amp;amp;fp=d91b70ca7a7fc89a&amp;amp;ix=hea&amp;amp;ion=1&amp;amp;ix=hea&amp;amp;ion=1&amp;amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&amp;amp;fp=d91b70ca7a7fc89a&amp;amp;biw=1366&amp;amp;bih=667&amp;amp;ix=hea&amp;amp;ion=1"&gt;Leonard Cohen,&lt;/a&gt; "Amen":&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when I've been to the river&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;And I've taken the edge off my thirst&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when we're alone and I'm listening Listening so hard that it hurts&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when I'm clean and &lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aAbEeoxsaRc" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;sober&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when I've been to the river&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;And I've taken the edge off my thirst&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when we're alone and I'm listening Listening so hard that it hurts&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when I'm clean and sober&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when I've seen through the horror Tell me again, tell me over and over&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me that you want me then&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Amen, Amen, Amen... Amen&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when the victims are singing&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;And the laws of remorse are restored&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again that you know what I'm thinking&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;But vengeance belongs to the lord&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when I'm clean and I'm sober&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when I've seen through the horror Tell me again, tell me over and over&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me that you love me then&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Amen, Amen, Amen... Amen&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when the day has been ransomed And the night has no right to begin&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Try me again when the angels are panting&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;And scratching at the door to come in&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when I'm clean and I'm sober&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when I've seen through the horror Tell me again, tell me over and over&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again that you need me then&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Amen, Amen, Amen... Amen&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when the filth of the butcher&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Is washed in the blood of the lamb&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when the rest of the culture&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Has passed through the eye of the cam&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when I'm clean and I'm sober&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me again when I've seen through the horror Tell me again, tell me over and over&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tell me that you love me then&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Amen, Amen, Amen... Amen&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RdShq34rk7g/TyeD1n3UmfI/AAAAAAAAGAs/jx3-remqK0k/s1600/drop+down+box.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="238" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RdShq34rk7g/TyeD1n3UmfI/AAAAAAAAGAs/jx3-remqK0k/s320/drop+down+box.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Pretty hilarious: there's an online debate about whether the line is&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;"Vengeance belongs to the &lt;a href="http://www.leonardcohenforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;amp;t=22935"&gt;Lord"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;or&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;"Vengeance belongs to the&lt;a href="http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/amen-lyrics-leonard-cohen.html"&gt; bored"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-6357892148426471868?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/6357892148426471868/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/laws-of-remorse-are-restoredvengeance.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6357892148426471868'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6357892148426471868'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/laws-of-remorse-are-restoredvengeance.html' title='&quot;the laws of remorse are restored..Vengeance belongs to the bored/Lord&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/aAbEeoxsaRc/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-5719676340617390099</id><published>2012-01-30T21:51:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-30T21:51:00.774-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='technology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sexuality'/><title type='text'>Thank God for the Evil Empire (Google)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mdh7o1OHk1k/Tyd-i7dwgII/AAAAAAAAGAg/D-IdbDOdB1A/s1600/googlejust.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="238" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mdh7o1OHk1k/Tyd-i7dwgII/AAAAAAAAGAg/D-IdbDOdB1A/s320/googlejust.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Google might indeed be partly evil...(like any &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2010/04/machine-economy.html"&gt;system&lt;/a&gt;, or any big "&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/07/jeus-and-machine.html"&gt;brothr"&lt;/a&gt;)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;....but for whatever reason they did this, &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians%201:15-18&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;celebrate!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Google...is awarding grants of $8 million to two &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Justice_Mission"&gt;International Justice Mission&lt;/a&gt; [a Christian -based organization] -led coalitions in India to fight human trafficking. &amp;nbsp; Most of IJM's funding comes from private donations; less than 1 percent of its $446 million budget in 2010 came from major corporations or their foundations"- Christianity Today, 2/12&lt;/i&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-5719676340617390099?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/5719676340617390099/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/thank-god-for-evil-empire-google.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5719676340617390099'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5719676340617390099'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/thank-god-for-evil-empire-google.html' title='Thank God for the Evil Empire (Google)'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mdh7o1OHk1k/Tyd-i7dwgII/AAAAAAAAGAg/D-IdbDOdB1A/s72-c/googlejust.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-3194751352399286568</id><published>2012-01-26T20:51:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-26T21:32:29.786-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading the Bible'/><title type='text'>don't seek first the Kingdom, and don't make God your top priority!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HQMpOaYIcHQ/TyIpxEEz_NI/AAAAAAAAF9k/mSh0pylivec/s1600/check-list-hi.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HQMpOaYIcHQ/TyIpxEEz_NI/AAAAAAAAF9k/mSh0pylivec/s200/check-list-hi.png" width="162" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bFXUAnMq5cg/TyIqCyH1GMI/AAAAAAAAF9s/Tjo0kvuWPg0/s1600/CHECK+TH.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="199" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bFXUAnMq5cg/TyIqCyH1GMI/AAAAAAAAF9s/Tjo0kvuWPg0/s200/CHECK+TH.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;If you think about it,&amp;nbsp; and look at context, it's obvious that "seek first the Kingdom" cannot be what Jesus means.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"First" implies one would seek something second, third, etc.&amp;nbsp; But he says "seek...the Kingdom, and all these things [food, clothes etc] will be&lt;b&gt; added&lt;/b&gt; to you."&amp;nbsp; Not: "seek the Kingdom, and then you can seek food , clothes."&amp;nbsp; No, "all these things" are given you, without you seeking them at all.&amp;nbsp; They are a by-product of seeking the &lt;b&gt;one&lt;/b&gt; thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To seek them..even sincerely; even secondly... would be idolatry. &lt;br /&gt;"Purity of heart," Kierkegaard said, "is to will one thing."&lt;br /&gt;Christianity is seeking one thing: the Kingdom thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How often have you seen it suggested&amp;nbsp; (here in the West, of course, that our priority list should follow this order:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God&amp;gt;family&amp;gt;church&amp;nbsp; etc etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Give it up.&amp;nbsp; Get your priorities right, and ditch the priority list.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read Joel Green&amp;nbsp; (below) carefully and carefully; and then check out Matthew 6 all over again:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&amp;nbsp;When Jesus calls on would-be disciples to "seek first the Kingdom," is he thinking of a list of priorities with "my relationship with God" at the head?&amp;nbsp; In fact, a closer reading of this part of the Sermon on the Mount may indicate that putting God at the top of our list of priorities is precisely what we must never do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9kkzOTWmPKo/TyIqyKmTeII/AAAAAAAAF90/DDQDwBHIQvQ/s1600/greenbook.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9kkzOTWmPKo/TyIqyKmTeII/AAAAAAAAF90/DDQDwBHIQvQ/s1600/greenbook.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Some may take offense at this suggestion.&amp;nbsp; After all, they may say, look at the passage!&amp;nbsp; Doesn't Matthew 6:25-24 teach just this order of priorities?&amp;nbsp; Doesn't it say, "Don't put food and drink first; don't put clothing concerns first; rather, out the Kingdom of God first'?"&amp;nbsp; On the basis of this passage, should we not say that "seeking first God's kingdom" must occupy the top spot on our list of priorities?&amp;nbsp; Is this not what Jesus is teaching?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe be can get closer to the meaning of this passage if we paraphrase Matthew 6:33 differently.&amp;nbsp; Consider these alternatives: "Let the Kingdom of God be at the center of your life...not at the top."&lt;br /&gt;"Let the Kingdom of God set the standards for your life."&amp;nbsp; "Let the kingdom of God determine how you live, how you work, how you communicate, how you play."&amp;nbsp; These alternative readings make good on the fact that the Greek word often translated "first" in this context, &lt;i&gt;proton,&lt;/i&gt; is used in the gospels not only to denote "the first in a series," but also "that upon which everything hinges."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other words,&lt;b&gt; do not put the Kingdom of God first on your priority list; rather, let the Kingdom of God determine your priority list! &lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;[&lt;i&gt;emphasis mine]&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In order to measure our response to Jesus' message in Matthew 6:33, we must ask more than, have I prayed today, or have I read the Bible today?&amp;nbsp; As important as those spiritual disciplines are, they are not the heart of Jesus' message here.&amp;nbsp; We must go further, deeper.&amp;nbsp; We must begin to ask: What had God's kingdom to do with the job I am doing?&amp;nbsp; The way I drive?&amp;nbsp; The church I attend?&amp;nbsp; The friends I have?&amp;nbsp; How I relate to my next-door neighbor.&amp;nbsp; And so on.&lt;b&gt; -&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://sites.google.com/site/greenjoelb/books-published"&gt;Joel Green, The Kingdom of God: It's Meaning and Mandate, &lt;/a&gt;pp. 68-69&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt; (review and summary &lt;a href="http://setsnservice.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/a-summary-and-review-of-kingdom-of-god-its-meaning-and-mandate-by-joel-b-green/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-3194751352399286568?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/3194751352399286568/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/dont-seek-first-kingdom-and-dont-make.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3194751352399286568'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3194751352399286568'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/dont-seek-first-kingdom-and-dont-make.html' title='don&apos;t seek first the Kingdom, and don&apos;t make God your top priority!'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HQMpOaYIcHQ/TyIpxEEz_NI/AAAAAAAAF9k/mSh0pylivec/s72-c/check-list-hi.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-4676071507046440357</id><published>2012-01-26T12:28:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-26T12:28:48.006-08:00</updated><title type='text'>"the impeded stream is the  one that sings"</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8YyH1SNZuzE/TdHAWCEG2OI/AAAAAAAAFJk/Be3e0eOj6r8/s1600/exclaim.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8YyH1SNZuzE/TdHAWCEG2OI/AAAAAAAAFJk/Be3e0eOj6r8/s320/exclaim.jpg" width="212" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Wendell Berry:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;"There are, it seems, two muses: the Muse of Inspiration, who gives us inarticulate visions and desires, and the Muse of Realization, who returns again and again to say "It is yet more difficult than you thought." This is the muse of form. It may be then that form serves us best when it works as an obstruction, to baffle us and deflect our intended course. It may be that when we no longer know what to do, we have come to our real work and when we no longer know which way to go, we have begun our real journey. The mind that is not baffled is not employed. The impeded stream is the one that sings.&lt;/i&gt;"- Wendell Berry,&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=BuwDAAAAMBAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA39&amp;amp;lpg=PA39&amp;amp;dq=%22+the+Muse+of+Inspiration%22+%22The+impeded+stream+is+the+one+that+sings%22&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=e8bdI78aNJ&amp;amp;sig=Yr-kO_ePxn07-Y38z8nyEIFwKWY&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=1r_RTeTWB7TUiALVpcXwCg&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=6&amp;amp;sqi=2&amp;amp;ved=0CDgQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=%22%20the%20Muse%20of%20Inspiration%22%20%22The%20impeded%20stream%20is%20the%20one%20that%20sings%22&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;&amp;nbsp;"Marriage, Too, May Have Something to Teach Us"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-4676071507046440357?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/4676071507046440357/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/impeded-stream-is-one-that-sings.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/4676071507046440357'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/4676071507046440357'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/impeded-stream-is-one-that-sings.html' title='&quot;the impeded stream is the  one that sings&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8YyH1SNZuzE/TdHAWCEG2OI/AAAAAAAAFJk/Be3e0eOj6r8/s72-c/exclaim.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-2406510336302037724</id><published>2012-01-24T13:10:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-24T13:10:13.622-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='technology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='role of the pastor'/><title type='text'>can pastors also go with the flow....of the ringtone?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wLSCBBvZTU0/Tx8d_VPX_eI/AAAAAAAAF7o/gJ43yiUCA2M/s1600/nocell.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wLSCBBvZTU0/Tx8d_VPX_eI/AAAAAAAAF7o/gJ43yiUCA2M/s200/nocell.png" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Churches  sure love/hate how they have to deal with cell phone interruptions of worship services.&lt;br /&gt;Some amazing stories are out there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course my favorite video that one church actually uses to enforce their cell phone policy (with some radical humor) is here.":&lt;a class="l vst" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2009/03/one-churchs-policy-on-cell-phones-in.html" style="background-color: white; color: #6611cc; cursor: pointer; font-family: arial, sans-serif; white-space: nowrap;"&gt;one church's policy on&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;"&gt;cell phones&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;in church&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;br /&gt;(see also "&lt;a class="l" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2009/07/no-cell-phones-during-baptisms.html" style="background-color: white; color: #1122cc; cursor: pointer; font-family: arial, sans-serif; white-space: nowrap;"&gt;No&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Cell Phones&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;During Baptisms!!!&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can probably guess what our church's policy is after a life may have been saved because a vistor took a call "in church."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There was a &lt;a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57358418-71/iphones-marimba-halts-new-york-philharmonic/"&gt;recent news story&lt;/a&gt; (I sure wish their was video about what the conductor of the NY Philharmonic did when interrupted by a call phone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;here: "&lt;a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57363517-71/violinist-interrupted-by-nokia-ringtone-plays-the-ringtone/?part=rss&amp;amp;subj=latest-news&amp;amp;tag=title" style="background-color: white; font-family: proxima-nova-extra-condensed, 'Helvetica Condensed Bold', 'Arial Narrow', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: x-large; line-height: 0.933em; text-align: left;"&gt;Violinist interrupted by Nokia ringtone, plays the ringtone&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;." &amp;nbsp;But the real treat is the video below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which style pastor/conductor are you?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uub0z8wJfhU" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-2406510336302037724?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/2406510336302037724/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/can-pastors-also-go-with-flowof.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/2406510336302037724'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/2406510336302037724'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/can-pastors-also-go-with-flowof.html' title='can pastors also go with the flow....of the ringtone?'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wLSCBBvZTU0/Tx8d_VPX_eI/AAAAAAAAF7o/gJ43yiUCA2M/s72-c/nocell.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-276028144762873943</id><published>2012-01-24T12:27:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-24T13:59:36.015-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='social networking'/><title type='text'>Google as jealous lover</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;"&gt;"Lay down your treasure&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;"&gt;Lay it down now brother&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;"&gt;You don't have time&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;"&gt;For a jealous lover&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;" /&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;"&gt;As you enter this life&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;"&gt;I pray you depart&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;"&gt;With a wrinkled face&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;"&gt;And a brand new heart"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;-U2, "Love and Peace Or Else"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 11px;"&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Cdt9kE58uww" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two good links&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h1 style="background-color: white; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 5px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li style="color: #39434c; font-family: proxima-nova-extra-condensed, 'Helvetica Condensed Bold', 'Arial Narrow', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 0.933em !important;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-size: small; line-height: 0.933em;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57363528-71/why-google-owes-you-nothing/" style="background-color: white; line-height: 0.933em;"&gt;Why Google owes you nothing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/24/tech/social-media/google-plus-nicknames/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn" style="background-color: white; font-family: inherit; font-weight: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Google swerves, allows nicknames on Google+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-276028144762873943?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/276028144762873943/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/google-as-jealous-lover.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/276028144762873943'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/276028144762873943'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/google-as-jealous-lover.html' title='Google as jealous lover'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/Cdt9kE58uww/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-2377803525040226166</id><published>2012-01-23T16:05:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-23T16:05:01.820-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='art'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jewish'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='images'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='centered sets'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='time travel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sexuality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='synesthesia'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='elevation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='book reviews'/><title type='text'>Jewish pros and cons: judging a book by its (back) cover as better than the swimsuit issue</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Sbl_859fCMY/Tx303ZxRq6I/AAAAAAAAF7I/GSslJ-FBcMk/s1600/rabbi+adamstarb.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="173" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Sbl_859fCMY/Tx303ZxRq6I/AAAAAAAAF7I/GSslJ-FBcMk/s200/rabbi+adamstarb.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;There is hardly any greater pleasure in life for an unrepentant bibliophile than to find a great book you didn't even know existed..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and to find it at a thrift store (where &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/story-of-dave-just-and-am-vet-thriift.html"&gt;theophanies happen&lt;/a&gt;) and thus the price is right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This time the book that found me &amp;nbsp;OK, there was more than one, you can stalk my stash &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/story-of-dave-just-and-am-vet-thriift.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) was &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=MMhrGwAACAAJ&amp;amp;dq=Beyond+the+graven+image+:+a+Jewish+view'&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=DvMdT6rOCKiciAKd4vnSCw&amp;amp;ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA"&gt;"Beyond the Graven Image: a Jewish View."&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But this is not yet a review, as all I've read is the back cover and a bit of the index!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZvzOu8w7fZw/Tx31Dckey-I/AAAAAAAAF7Q/fUS-1kWhchI/s1600/graven.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZvzOu8w7fZw/Tx31Dckey-I/AAAAAAAAF7Q/fUS-1kWhchI/s400/graven.jpg" width="256" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;And that's what i'd like to comment on.&lt;br /&gt;(By the way, check out &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7JSwVxYxtQ"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; quick &amp;nbsp;clip &amp;nbsp;(and quip) &amp;nbsp;if you hate it when people review books they haven't read!).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's what stands out.&lt;br /&gt;It's not many books where I actually underline phrases on the back cover!&lt;br /&gt;Here's the back cover summary:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: 16px;"&gt;The proscription against using images in worship sets Judaism, together with Islam, apart from all other religious systems. In Beyond the Graven Image, Lionel Kochan explains the reasons for this prohibition and demonstrates how influential this image-ban has been in determining key aspects of Jewish thinking. Has the Biblical prohibition made the Jews a people of the ear rather than of the eye? The attraction of idols stems from their physical imagery and visual appeal. What distinguishes God from the "other gods," Kochan argues, is God's invisibility. As God communicates directly with people through voice, material entities purporting to transmit divine messages are deemed false. The worship of idols is seen as the ultimate form of disobedience. Such tenets have profound ramifications for Jewish thinking. The denigration of idol worship leads within Judaism to an attempt to devalue the material world. Symbolism is viewed with skepticism, as is representational art. Kochan argues that the Jewish conceptions of holiness and symbolism, our relationship with God, and the role of memory in religion, as well as the preference for non-material arts such as music over visual modes of artistic expression within Judaism, have all been shaped by the prohibition against physical representations of God. &lt;a href="http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/16087940" style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;So between that, and a brief look, here's my working list of potential pros and cons of a classic Jewish prespective &amp;nbsp;(not to be confused with Jewish pros, as in professionals ( I do know&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/maccabeeajb?ref=ts"&gt; one&lt;/a&gt;.) or Jewish cons (as in convicts or con men. &amp;nbsp;I don't know any).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A Jewish worldview/hermeneutic may enable a &amp;nbsp;natural propensity to (the "pro"s)" the following&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;a) &amp;nbsp;intuit and "get"...epistemologically, hermeneutically, and midrashically speaking ...the following(the "pro"s):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The primacy of sound over sight ("people of the ear rather than the eye..", &amp;nbsp;"preference for music", Shema etc.&lt;i&gt;see posts below labeled sound theory, synesthesia, string theory, and readd Ong, Webb and Rabbi Jose &amp;nbsp;Faur)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;the power of symbol/semiotics/parable &lt;i&gt;('holiness and symbolism," see posts labeled: metaphor, parable)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;holistic, Hebraic (of course) &amp;nbsp;and kairotic view of time, as well as its arrow and arc&lt;i&gt; (chapter 7, see posts labeled "time")&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;sensitivity to what Tschetter might call "&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_1979092371"&gt;the issue of the swimsuit issue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2006/10/sports-illustrated-swimsuit-edition.html"&gt;"&lt;/a&gt;...(see posts labeled: images)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;primacy of elevation over sublimation &amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;(see &amp;nbsp;posts labeld: elevation, sexuality, especially &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2009/12/elevation-leads-to-vertigo-20.html"&gt;this &amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt; )&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;b)be "accidentally attracted to" (the "con"s):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;gnosticism/dualism/bounede setness (&lt;i&gt;"...denigate the material world&lt;/i&gt;"&lt;b&gt;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;fear of visual art and "image" (&lt;i&gt;"symbolism is viewed with skepticism",&amp;nbsp;see posts labeled "images")&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;All these tendencies, the author argues, are directly tied and tethered to the thoroughgoing "denigration of idol worship: inevitably built into (hardwired and heartwired) Judaism.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;And the author wrestles with Maimonedes, Spinoza and Heschel.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I like it already..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-2377803525040226166?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/2377803525040226166/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/jewish-pros-and-cons-judging-book-by.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/2377803525040226166'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/2377803525040226166'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/jewish-pros-and-cons-judging-book-by.html' title='Jewish pros and cons: judging a book by its (back) cover as better than the swimsuit issue'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Sbl_859fCMY/Tx303ZxRq6I/AAAAAAAAF7I/GSslJ-FBcMk/s72-c/rabbi+adamstarb.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-5559092826462936442</id><published>2012-01-23T14:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-23T14:57:40.164-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='role of the pastor'/><title type='text'>the story of Dave the Just and the Am-Vet Thriift Store Theophany (with stunning non-Photoshopped evidence)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vWlbBlxuCLA/Tx3aOH_2Z7I/AAAAAAAAF6w/AIqK86aB1QI/s1600/thrift.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vWlbBlxuCLA/Tx3aOH_2Z7I/AAAAAAAAF6w/AIqK86aB1QI/s640/thrift.jpg" width="475" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"&gt;See the shining Shekinah lights in this photo above?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Me, too...that's why I took it. &amp;nbsp;I mean, how do you encounter a theophany and not snap a pic to tell and show?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Okay, kidding, sort of.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Sometimes shekinah-moments are more subtle &amp;nbsp;(just hanging out eating a banana..ha, great Larry Randolph line )than that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Actually when I snapped the pic, I &amp;nbsp;didn't even notice the shining&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/A9b-bifHFAw" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt; glory.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I think it was more a product of me grabbing a photo before anyone thought I was a stalker, and thus before I worried about how the focus and light would look.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Then i sent it to Facebook mobile to remind me to upload it here. &amp;nbsp;But on a &amp;nbsp;whim, &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150616928673245&amp;amp;set=a.10150323145868245.380116.669508244&amp;amp;type=1&amp;amp;theater&amp;amp;notif_t=photo_comment"&gt;&amp;nbsp;I added the comment:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;"&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;story behind this pic to follow..but feel free to make one up until i post it&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="fcg" style="background-color: white; color: grey; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="fcg" style="background-color: white; color: grey; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="fcg" style="background-color: white; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I love the answer i got already:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="fcg" style="background-color: white; color: grey; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a class="actorName" data-ft="{&amp;quot;type&amp;quot;:35}" data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/user.php?id=100000500771484" href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000500771484" style="background-color: #edeff4; color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; font-size: 11px; font-weight: bold; line-height: 14px;"&gt;Dick Grady&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: #edeff4; color: #333333; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text" style="background-color: #edeff4; color: #333333; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14px;"&gt;Walk to the light.................&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text" style="background-color: #edeff4; color: #333333; font-size: 11px; line-height: 14px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 13px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;Lol..that ATM does look beckoning..but it's a siren..."&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_1859303475"&gt;Welcome to the Machine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://./"&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;But that's &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2008/10/you-only-love-me-for-my-machine.html"&gt;another&lt;/a&gt; post&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;The backstory?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;It's told in a post several years back, excerpted below.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;But suffice to say I took the pic is hallowed and holy ground.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;Jesus met me there.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;In the for of a wonderful woman whose name I don't even know.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;And that's the point, as you'll see.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;We can all locate in our memory, history, and actual geography places where our life changed unexpectedly. &amp;nbsp;Where were you on 9:11? &amp;nbsp; When someone you loved said "I do"...or "I'm leaving.."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;This serendipitous shake-up call began with two words which I hardly hear anymore, as I prefer&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zxjLesfQ2Fg/Tx3gxrM0MdI/AAAAAAAAF7A/DehRmFGQZoM/s1600/justdave.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="238" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zxjLesfQ2Fg/Tx3gxrM0MdI/AAAAAAAAF7A/DehRmFGQZoM/s320/justdave.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;to be called "Dave" and not by any title that i may or may not be...well, entitled to (Which is funny, because sometimes when I tell our congregation, or classes and retreats I teach that I am "just Dave," they turn that into a title: "&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150565097408245&amp;amp;set=a.10150323145868245.380116.669508244&amp;amp;type=3&amp;amp;theater"&gt;Just (as in "Righteouss" Dave."(:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;At least it's not "Dave the Just."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;On to the two words, and the source of the shekinah at the &amp;nbsp;Shields Avenue&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a class="l" href="http://fresno.citysearch.com/profile/map/806096/fresno_ca/am_vets_thrift_store.html" style="background-color: white; color: #1122cc; cursor: pointer; text-align: -webkit-auto; white-space: nowrap;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #1122cc; cursor: pointer; text-align: -webkit-auto; white-space: nowrap;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; cursor: pointer; text-align: -webkit-auto; white-space: nowrap;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="background-color: white; color: #1122cc; cursor: pointer; text-align: -webkit-auto; white-space: nowrap;"&gt;Am-Vets&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="font-style: normal;"&gt;Thrift Store&lt;/em&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I should call it Beth-El and build an altar there.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Instead I simply snapped a photo on my cell phone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Same thing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Not long ago, a woman...obviously from a previous (and much larger) church I pastored... came up to me in a store, "Hey, Pastor Dave! Long time, no see! Your sermons absolutely changed my life!" I was thrilled and honored; but I didn't have the heart to tell her the whole truth: Not only did I have no idea of who she was; she had no inkling that I would not know. We both knew we had never had a face-to-face conversation; that was not the issue. But in a larger church (too large for the senior pastor to know everyone's name), there is the "Johnny Carson" syndrome at work. Carson was swamped by people whenever he went out in public who called him by first name; after all he was in their bedroom every night (via "The Tonight Show"). The false intimacy that dogs media stars can be even more damaging in the church context. I could tell the woman would be crushed if I admitted I had no idea who she was...most likely a quiet there-every-Sunday "&lt;a href="http://www.lyricsfreak.com/e/elton-john/46284.html" style="color: #888888; text-decoration: none;"&gt;22nd pew&lt;/a&gt;" saint; but I had no memory of ever seeing her. The default church culture automatically attributes omniscience to the senior pastor (He or she will not&amp;nbsp;only know my name, but know when/where I am in the hospital, etc.) . Of course this is impossible with thousands, even hundredes of attenders; but as skewed and doomed as this expectation is, it is originally based on a basic biblical truth: shepherds are supposed to know their sheep;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2010%20;&amp;amp;version=76;" style="color: #888888; text-decoration: none;"&gt;even call them by name&lt;/a&gt;. Jesus flatly calls any other kind a thief. -&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/The%20Reduction%20of%20Seduction:%20Part%202:%20Gleaning%20from%20Family%20Systems%20Theory"&gt;Full article here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;I can no longer imagine myself pastoring a church larger than...well, the number of names and peeps/sheeps I can truly know. &amp;nbsp;I am glad when other pastors are called to shepherd larger flocks (and they know the secret is to become a "rancher" and to utilize "undershpherds."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;So today and what may well be the tenth anniversary of that thrift store conversation..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;I stopped on the way home to feed my addiction (used books, of course! &amp;nbsp;Did you think I shop for used underwear.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;So thanks to the nameless (to me) vets who benefited from my purchase.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;Thanks to the nameless (to my shame) wonderful woman who felt compelled to thank me that day.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;Thanks to her I stand on holy ground &amp;nbsp;which can even include the 22nd pew) at the shiny shekinah thrift store on Shields.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;Oh, here is today's stash below, but I took home something far more valuable..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 12px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; 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font-size: medium; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="474" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8GOInWAo5Hg/Tx3bBM2JmWI/AAAAAAAAF64/mR0InDRZPaM/s640/THRIFTBOOKS.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-5559092826462936442?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/5559092826462936442/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/story-of-dave-just-and-am-vet-thriift.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5559092826462936442'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5559092826462936442'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/story-of-dave-just-and-am-vet-thriift.html' title='the story of Dave the Just and the Am-Vet Thriift Store Theophany (with stunning non-Photoshopped evidence)'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vWlbBlxuCLA/Tx3aOH_2Z7I/AAAAAAAAF6w/AIqK86aB1QI/s72-c/thrift.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-4436410237429555535</id><published>2012-01-21T19:47:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-21T19:48:35.749-08:00</updated><title type='text'>"I Think I'm Going to Throw Up"</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Oqsbn7hPKL4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-4436410237429555535?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/4436410237429555535/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/i-think-im-goung-to-thrwo-up.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/4436410237429555535'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/4436410237429555535'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/i-think-im-goung-to-thrwo-up.html' title='&quot;I Think I&apos;m Going to Throw Up&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/Oqsbn7hPKL4/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-7801139912688497582</id><published>2012-01-19T17:43:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-19T17:43:41.387-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pete Rollins'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='parables'/><title type='text'>Which would you choose: Jesus or heaven?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WN6nrwm5GZ4/TxjGoMIZ2eI/AAAAAAAAF3c/3Eswsx913xM/s1600/questionbulb.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="116" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WN6nrwm5GZ4/TxjGoMIZ2eI/AAAAAAAAF3c/3Eswsx913xM/s200/questionbulb.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Which would you choose? (Parable by Peter Rollins):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: -webkit-auto;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Trebuchet MS'; line-height: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;You sit in silence contemplating what has just taken place. Only moments ago you were alive and well, relaxing at home with friends. Then there was a deep, crushing pain in your chest that brought you crashing to the floor. The pain has now gone, but you are no longer in your home. Instead, you find yourself standing on the other side of death waiting to stand before the judgment seat and discover where you will spend eternity. As you reflect upon your life your name is called, and you are led down a long corridor into a majestic sanctuary with a throne located in its center. Sitting on this throne is a huge, breathtaking being who looks up at you and begins to speak.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Trebuchet MS'; line-height: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Trebuchet MS'; line-height: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;“My name is Lucifer, and I am the angel of light.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Trebuchet MS'; line-height: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Trebuchet MS'; line-height: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;You are immediately filled with fear and trembling as you realize that you are face to face with the enemy of all that is true and good. Then the angel continues: “I have cast God down from his throne and banished Christ to the realm of eternal death. It is I who hold the keys to the kingdom. It is I who am the gatekeeper of paradise, and it is for me alone to decide who shall enter eternal joy and who shall be forsaken.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Trebuchet MS'; line-height: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Trebuchet MS'; line-height: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;After saying these words, he sits up and stretches out his vast arms. “In my right hand I hold eternal life and in my left hand eternal death. Those who would bow down and acknowledge me as their god shall pass through the gates of paradise and experience an eternity of bliss, but all those who refuse will be vanquished to the second death with their Christ.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Trebuchet MS'; line-height: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Trebuchet MS'; line-height: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;After a long pause he bends toward you and speaks, “Which will you choose?”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Trebuchet MS'; line-height: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify;"&gt;-Peter Rollins,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557256349/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=adventureinfo-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1557256349" style="color: #fc3d32; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 11px; line-height: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify; text-decoration: none;"&gt;The Orthodox Heretic: And Other Impossible Tales&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1557256349" style="border-bottom-style: none !important; border-color: initial !important; border-image: initial !important; border-left-style: none !important; border-right-style: none !important; border-top-style: none !important; border-width: initial !important; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 11px; line-height: 16px; margin-bottom: 0px !important; margin-left: 0px !important; margin-right: 0px !important; margin-top: 0px !important; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-7801139912688497582?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/7801139912688497582/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/which-would-you-choose-jesus-or-heaven.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7801139912688497582'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7801139912688497582'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/which-would-you-choose-jesus-or-heaven.html' title='Which would you choose: Jesus or heaven?'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WN6nrwm5GZ4/TxjGoMIZ2eI/AAAAAAAAF3c/3Eswsx913xM/s72-c/questionbulb.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-857685436296591212</id><published>2012-01-17T23:05:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-19T14:19:07.933-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='book reviews'/><title type='text'>"From Eternity To Here"  by...huh?</title><content type='html'>Two great books...but look carefully:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How in the world&lt;span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"&gt; does this happen without copyright/lawsuit&amp;nbsp; issues?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Identical title and color scheme.. Absolutely no accident.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"&gt;&lt;span class="text_exposed_show"&gt;Both books came out about the same time, and are completely unrelated as far as content. Looks like the Christian one (l) came out first, and then the physics one, at least by copyright date and Amazon's listed date of publication. (I was hoping it wasn't the other way around. My fear was the Christian publisher had stolen the cover of the secular one)..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Rv31td_U1js/TxZvjfhqouI/AAAAAAAAF2g/xb55d2meGJA/s1600/cover.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="480" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Rv31td_U1js/TxZvjfhqouI/AAAAAAAAF2g/xb55d2meGJA/s640/cover.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"&gt;&lt;span class="text_exposed_show"&gt;So I really wonder what the story is. It's crazy and must cause confusion., It did for me. When I saw the book on the right in the store, I thought "How funny, someone stuck &lt;a href="http://www.frometernitytohere.org/"&gt;Viola's Christian book&lt;/a&gt; under the science section."&amp;nbsp; So I'll tag the. authors &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150602862543245&amp;amp;set=a.10150323145868245.380116.669508244&amp;amp;type=1&amp;amp;theater"&gt;on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/user.php?id=630284992" href="http://www.facebook.com/frank.viola"&gt;Frank Viola&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/page.php?id=112430915436491" href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sean-M-Carroll/112430915436491"&gt;Sean M. Carroll&lt;/a&gt; and see wbat happens.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"&gt;&lt;span class="text_exposed_show"&gt;Anyone know the story?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="commentBody" data-jsid="text"&gt;&lt;span class="text_exposed_show"&gt;Both great books, btw.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;embed allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" flashvars="&amp;amp;controlbar=over&amp;amp;date=February%2028%2C%202010&amp;amp;description=Sean%20Carroll%20is%20a%20theoretical%20physicist%20and%20Senior%20Research%20Associate%20in%20physics%20at%20the%20California%20Institute%20of%20Technology.%20His%20research%20is%20focused%20on%20theoretical%20aspects%20of%20cosmology%2C%20field%20theory%20and%20gravitation.%20He%20is%20the%20author%20of%20the%20book%20From%20Eternity%20to%20Here%3A%26amp%3Bnbsp%3BThe%20Quest%20for%20the%20Ultimate%20Theory%20of%20Time.&amp;amp;file=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesciencenetwork.org%2Fmedia%2Fvideos%2F513.mov&amp;amp;frontcolor=0xffffff&amp;amp;image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesciencenetwork.org%2Fmedia%2Fvideos%2F513.jpg&amp;amp;plugins=viral-h&amp;amp;skin=http%3A%2F%2Fthesciencenetwork.org%2Fflash%2Fbeelden.zip&amp;amp;title=From%20Eternity%20to%20Here&amp;amp;viral.onpause=false&amp;amp;viral.pluginmode=FLASH" height="254" src="http://thesciencenetwork.org/jwplayer/5.7/player.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Update: Frank Viola responded on Facebook:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Frank Viola&lt;/strong&gt; Thanks for your inquiry and for copying me in. And more, for the kind words about the book. Yes, you are correct, my book came out first, some 8 or 9 months earlier as I recall. It was on Amazon (with the cover) many months before it releas...ed. I remember when a friend of mine found the other book almost a year later on another site. The publisher and I were amazed by the same title and similar cover. Nevertheless, I don't believe in judging motives and concluded that it was just a coincidence. So I applaud Mr. Carroll for a compelling title. And I do like his cover as well. :-) If the truth be told, James Jones stole our title some 50 years earlier . . . he just reversed two of the words ;-)See More&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;.&lt;strong&gt;Dave Wainscott&lt;/strong&gt; Frank, thanks so much for filling us in. I love the way you handled it..you know this was no accident, even if it was subconscious. Will be interesting to hear what Sean Carroll or his publisher says. And yes, I do love the book, will post a review soon. Thanks so much for all you do in the Kingdom. Blessings!&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-857685436296591212?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/857685436296591212/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/blog-post.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/857685436296591212'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/857685436296591212'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/blog-post.html' title='&quot;From Eternity To Here&quot;  by...huh?'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Rv31td_U1js/TxZvjfhqouI/AAAAAAAAF2g/xb55d2meGJA/s72-c/cover.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-6603292388013035588</id><published>2012-01-17T14:44:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-17T14:44:08.299-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='role of the pastor'/><title type='text'>"only two things that draw me back from evangelical celebrity"</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Q38p-NgWD6o/TxX5gBjZxJI/AAAAAAAAF2Y/kuWpbfjfws4/s1600/tar_im_a_star_hat-p148682241196713146z8nb8_400.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Q38p-NgWD6o/TxX5gBjZxJI/AAAAAAAAF2Y/kuWpbfjfws4/s320/tar_im_a_star_hat-p148682241196713146z8nb8_400.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Rachel Held Evans:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq" style="color: red;"&gt;When I feel that pull of evangelical celebrity, there are only two things that draw me back to center:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) Friends and family who will call me on my crap&lt;br /&gt;2) Structured prayer&amp;nbsp; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: red;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt; -full post &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/reflections-evangelical-celebrity" style="color: red;"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-6603292388013035588?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/6603292388013035588/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/only-two-things-that-draw-me-back-from.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6603292388013035588'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6603292388013035588'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/only-two-things-that-draw-me-back-from.html' title='&quot;only two things that draw me back from evangelical celebrity&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Q38p-NgWD6o/TxX5gBjZxJI/AAAAAAAAF2Y/kuWpbfjfws4/s72-c/tar_im_a_star_hat-p148682241196713146z8nb8_400.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-2817930093282671519</id><published>2012-01-17T14:32:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-17T14:33:34.451-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='time travel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='physics'/><title type='text'>time travel by circling light</title><content type='html'>"Ronald L. Mallett, PhD, is a professor of theoretical physics at the University of Connecticut. He discovered a possible way to travel in time by applying Einstein's theory of relativity to laser light moving in a circle. The program uses CGI to illustrate his theories. Mallett was one of the first African-Americans to obtain a PhD in theoretical physics. He was inspired to do so because he wished to travel back in time to visit his dead father, who died when Mallett was ten." &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-UTspAKPWw&amp;amp;feature=related"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/oRWwI61so5Q" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/T-UTspAKPWw" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1EnXvS1yBIQ" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/n8CdOKf9YV0" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HMv8fpmEPfs" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/mGrBNtJjsU0" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-2817930093282671519?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/2817930093282671519/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/time-travel-by-circling-light.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/2817930093282671519'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/2817930093282671519'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/time-travel-by-circling-light.html' title='time travel by circling light'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/oRWwI61so5Q/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-6149977873612868851</id><published>2012-01-17T13:48:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-17T13:49:08.734-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='temple tantrum'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading the Bible'/><title type='text'>James Jones: why does "no one ever explain"  the temple tantrum?</title><content type='html'>&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img height="277px;" src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/gyzNhLTnle4jSNXdp2_nAl_CNTSeXJqiH7uOPBQZX2WxyRs3H2Wybc9BNBF_dUCZLPONMcHFJd-9QLbUgQnfOAu0SgS1FTtCD-ts_ETqyZlfC8JkPA" style="background-color: transparent; border-color: transparent; border-radius: 0px 0px 0px 0px; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; box-shadow: 0px 0px 0px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2); margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; padding: 8px;" width="411px;" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Some revolutionaries from all nations overlooking the Temple Mount, on our 2004 trip&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt; &lt;/table&gt;&lt;b&gt;From James Jones: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;What came to my mind is that, for some time,  I've believed that our  exposition of the cleansing of the temple has  missed the point. The  cleansing of the temple was not a statement  against capitalism. The  cleansing of the temple was a statement against  &lt;a href="http://blog.sojo.net/tag/racism/" target="_blank"&gt;racism&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;What was going on there was they had taken the Court of the Gentiles,   the court of the other races, [which] allowed them to draw near to the   God of Israel, to worship him, and they had filled that Court of the   Gentiles with [commercial] stalls that prevented them from doing that.   And Jesus clears the stalls out -- because they've denied the other   races their sacred space to draw close to the God of Israel. If you   think this is fanciful, then simply go to the two quotations that Jesus   used from Jeremiah and Isaiah; the Isaiah quotation is all about the   stranger in the land coming to the house of the Lord to worship him with   joy.&lt;br /&gt;Jesus says my house of prayer, should be a house of prayer for all races -- you've made it a "&lt;a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=155985950" target="_blank"&gt;den of thieves&lt;/a&gt;".   Why is it that in 2,000 years of Christian theology we've emphasized   the "den of thieves" and not all races? My house should be a house of   prayer for every race. And then in Mark's gospel there is a throwaway   line which nobody ever explains, which gives the clue to what Jesus did.   After having cleansed the temple, he then, we're told, lets nobody  move  through it. Why is that? Because he restores the sacredness of the   space to the other races, so that they might draw near to worship the   God of Israel. -&lt;a href="http://sojo.net/blogs/2010/11/05/house-prayer-all-races"&gt;LINK,&amp;nbsp; James Jones , A House of Prayer for All Races&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-6149977873612868851?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' 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list (:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="background-color: yellow;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;nbsp;Tim Wainscott: Love Songs (unreleased)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/03/story-of-our-lives-by-violet-burning.html"&gt;The Violet Burning: The Story of Our Lives&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;U2: Achtung Baby Super Deluxe &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bill Mallonee: The Power and the Glory&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Radiohead: The King of Limbs&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wilco: The Whole Love &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Switchfoot: Vice Verses&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Florence and the Machine:Ceremonials&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Coldplay:Mylo Xyloto&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wilco: The Whole Love&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;David Bazan - Strange Negotiations&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Passion:&amp;nbsp; Here for You&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Derri Daughtery: &lt;a href="http://cloudsechoinblue.com/"&gt;Clouds&amp;nbsp; Echo in Blue&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sigur Ros: Inni&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Comments:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--Wish I could count the new&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/david-crowder-let-me-in-sound-of-light.html"&gt; David Crowder&lt;/a&gt;..it's 2012 by matter of days!:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Kerosene Halo: Kerosene Halo(&lt;a class="l" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/10/three-legged-dog-concert-video-roe.html"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt; "Three Legged Dog" concert video)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;--I have &lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;got&lt;/span&gt; to get into Bon Iver, it's on the list of every genius I know (especially Ryan..and it's #1 on Paste list)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-I'll bet I'll add The Joy Formiddable: The Big Roar...but haven't heard it yet&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; How could this not be on my list when Rolling Stone said of them:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;"We've seen rock's future, and it's Welsh, blond and has a drummer so badass he makes  &lt;i&gt;Keith Moon&lt;/i&gt; sound like your Mom playing Rock Band (Ghost of Keith Moon, pleas don;t haunt us!)"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-These may make my list later..haven't heard yet:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Iron &amp;amp; Wine –&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;i&gt;Kiss Each Other Clean&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Over The Rhine - The Laugh of Recognition,&amp;nbsp; &lt;span class="citation"&gt;&lt;a class="citation" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/music/reviews/2011/longsurrender.html" target="_blank"&gt;The Long Surrender&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Josh Garrells:  &lt;span class="citation"&gt;&lt;a class="citation" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/music/reviews/2011/lovewar.html" target="_blank"&gt;Love War &amp;amp;&amp;nbsp; the Sea In Between&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Paul Simon;&lt;span class="citation"&gt;&lt;a class="citation" href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/music/reviews/2011/sobeautiful.html" target="_blank"&gt;So Beautiful or So What&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;Mumford and Sons: Live from Shepherd's, Bush Empire&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="citation"&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some great lists by others:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ucc.org/news/music-reviews-the-20-best.html"&gt;Brian Quincy Newcomb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/music/commentaries/2011/2011ctmusicawards.html"&gt;Christianity Today&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/notes/ryan-townsend/top-ten-of-2011/10150442349552854"&gt;Ryan Townsend&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://stereogum.com/890842/pastes-top-50-albums-of-2011/list/"&gt;paste&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-3285659669248471796?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/3285659669248471796/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/best-albums-of-2011including-some-i.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3285659669248471796'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' 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14px; line-height: 21px; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 15px; padding-right: 15px; padding-top: 4px; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"&gt;"Why I hate religion but love Jesus"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #444444; font-family: Lato, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;by &amp;nbsp;Jefferson Bethke,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;video already  (It went more viral than "&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/%3Ciframe%20width=%22420%22%20height=%22315%22%20src=%22http://www.youtube.com/embed/5x5wIuZEyLA%22%20frameborder=%220%22%20allowfullscreen%3E%3C/iframe%3E"&gt;The Heat is On"&lt;/a&gt;),,,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;here are five responses:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tim Neufeld:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;a href="http://timneufeld.blogs.com/occasio/2012/01/why-i-think-why-i-hate-religion-but-love-jesus-is-dangerous.html" style="color: #4981ca; text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Why I think "Why I hate religion but love Jesus" is dangerous&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tall Skinny:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;h3 class="entry-header" style="background-color: white; color: #859731; display: table; font-family: Lato, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 21px; font-weight: 400; line-height: 21px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 8px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://tallskinnykiwi.typepad.com/tallskinnykiwi/2012/01/religion-love-it-and-hate-it.html"&gt;Religion: Love it and Hate it&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sarcastic Lutheran:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nadiabolzweber/"&gt;Why I hate Religion, But Love Jesus&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Brambonius Cools:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;a href="http://bramboniusinenglish.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/it-may-or-may-not-be-a-religion-depending-on-your-definition-pt-ii/"&gt;part 1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://bramboniusinenglish.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/it-may-or-may-not-be-a-religion-depending-on-your-definition-pt-ii/"&gt;(pt&amp;nbsp;II)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dave Schmelzer:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;h3 class="entry-header" style="background-color: white; color: #192f73; font-family: georgia, 'times new roman', serif; font-size: 22px; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 25px; margin-right: 25px; margin-top: 5px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://notreligious.typepad.com/notreligious/2012/01/your-thoughts-on-why-i-hate-religion-but-love-jesus.html"&gt;Your Thoughts on "Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus"?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-5547158570032723844?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/5547158570032723844/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-i-hate-religion-but-love-jesus-four.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5547158570032723844'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5547158570032723844'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-i-hate-religion-but-love-jesus-four.html' title='&quot;Why I hate religion but love Jesus&quot;: five responses'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/1IAhDGYlpqY/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-4267317699975105155</id><published>2012-01-15T20:04:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-15T20:07:13.497-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality of music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='movies'/><title type='text'>Bleed into One</title><content type='html'>Mike Roe kicks off the new Kickstarter trailer!:&lt;iframe frameborder="0" height="410px" src="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/188209269/bleed-into-one-the-story-of-christian-rock/widget/video.html" width="480px"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More info&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/188209269/bleed-into-one-the-story-of-christian-rock"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and &lt;a href="http://www.atu2blog.com/u2-still-in-the-story-of-christian-rock-documentary/28095/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--&lt;br /&gt;2007 promo:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/x_T68j4lb9g" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-4267317699975105155?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/4267317699975105155/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' 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width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-7621742939476877072</id><published>2012-01-14T18:25:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-14T18:29:42.887-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sermon on the mount'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='shane  claiborne'/><title type='text'>Shane Claiborne at Asbury: Sermon on the Mount/ Bad Theology Kills</title><content type='html'>Sermon on the Mount:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/BEGrTojD5vE" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bad Theology Kills (reminds me what Shane once told Ken and me: &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2009/12/our-interview-with-shane-claiborne.html"&gt;"Doctrines are hard things to love"&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7agWRySjSEQ" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Living as a Red Letter Christian:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/zQXc4T2TsGU" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-7621742939476877072?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/7621742939476877072/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/shane-claiborne-at-asbury-sermon-on.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7621742939476877072'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7621742939476877072'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/shane-claiborne-at-asbury-sermon-on.html' title='Shane Claiborne at Asbury: Sermon on the Mount/ Bad Theology Kills'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/BEGrTojD5vE/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-3036188044844494904</id><published>2012-01-14T18:15:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-14T18:15:11.920-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Craig Keener'/><title type='text'>Creig Keener at Asbury: on miracles and resurrections from the dead</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/mC8OXGU2QUA" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;related:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1PJHVSYaPsA" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CNWYdCiVzZA" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-3036188044844494904?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/3036188044844494904/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' 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Wright at Asbury: what is justification and what is at stake?</title><content type='html'>Turns out justification is far more centered set/temple tantrum related than folks give it credit for:&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ii5YHwrkEpQ" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-1420866685302442863?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/1420866685302442863/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/nt-wright-at-asbury-what-is.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1420866685302442863'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1420866685302442863'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/nt-wright-at-asbury-what-is.html' title='N.T. Wright at Asbury: what is justification and what is at stake?'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/ii5YHwrkEpQ/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-838632633037953335</id><published>2012-01-14T17:41:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-14T17:41:15.127-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality of music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='U2 2000s'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='synesthesia'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sound theory'/><title type='text'>David Crowder: let me in the sound of light</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ehF8LiaWbdk/TxIuEZphGxI/AAAAAAAAF14/nqOnEUloCCs/s1600/sound_waves.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ehF8LiaWbdk/TxIuEZphGxI/AAAAAAAAF14/nqOnEUloCCs/s200/sound_waves.jpg" width="170" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;If&amp;nbsp;you think David Crowder's a heretic, you'll enjoy &lt;a href="http://defendingcontending.com/2010/02/28/david-crowders-crowded-theology/"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; link&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you think's he's the Messiah, he's not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But if you were wondering if the Christianity Today review of his band's new and final&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qqydZ5ixX4E" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;project is hyperbole:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt;"epic..like watching all three Lord of the Rings films in one sitting..a Mount Everest of rock worship albums, never to be topped." &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_1210995777"&gt;-&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/music/reviews/2012/giveusrest.html"&gt;Christianity Today&lt;/a&gt;, print edition&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...my very early hunch after only a few listens is:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course...but maybe not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It probably tops "Church Music" &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2009/11/david-crowder-and-todd-rundgren-do.html"&gt;and it's odd ancestor&lt;/a&gt;...combined.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some &amp;nbsp;helpful reviews:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://asburyseedbed.com/feed/review-of-david-crowder-band-s-give-us-rest-or-a-requiem-mass-in-c-the-happiest-of-all-keys-"&gt;Asbury Seminary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.jesusfreakhideout.com/cdreviews/GiveUsRest.asp"&gt;Review in JesusFreak Hideout&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://whatsmccrackenvii.wordpress.com/2012/01/14/david-crowderband-and-give-us-rest-or-a-requiem-mass-in-c-the-happiest-of-all-keys-a-retrospective-and-review/"&gt;Review from &amp;nbsp;whatsmccrackenv&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Give-Requiem-Happiest-digital-booklet/product-reviews/B006G8VPR2/ref=cm_cr_pr_redirect?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;showViewpoints=0"&gt;Reviews on Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.hmmagazine.com/2011/12/david-crowder-band-releasing-last-album/"&gt;Doug Van Pelt at HM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have long loved the l&lt;a href="http://whatsmccrackenvii.wordpress.com/2012/01/14/david-crowderband-and-give-us-rest-or-a-requiem-mass-in-c-the-happiest-of-all-keys-a-retrospective-and-review/"&gt;iturgy and physics&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; connections in the Crowder catalog&amp;nbsp;(see more on Crowder and physics &lt;a href="https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;q=%22david+crowder%22+%22physics%22"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;),&lt;br /&gt;but this time around, I pick up some "sound theory." &amp;nbsp;Likely not a full-blown acoustemology, and decidedly not a commentary on string theory..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But in a way that reminds me of the "sound" theme of U2's &lt;a href="https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;q=%22holy+heterpoclite%22+U2+sound#pq=%22holy+heterpoclite%22+u2+sound&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sugexp=pfwl&amp;amp;tok=cYzuCBToR6JjykgOycbxTA&amp;amp;cp=11&amp;amp;gs_id=3&amp;amp;xhr=t&amp;amp;q=%22holy+heteroclite%22+U2+sound&amp;amp;pf=p&amp;amp;sclient=psy-ab&amp;amp;source=hp&amp;amp;pbx=1&amp;amp;oq=%22holy+heteroclite%22+U2+sound&amp;amp;aq=f&amp;amp;aqi=&amp;amp;aql=&amp;amp;gs_sm=&amp;amp;gs_upl=&amp;amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&amp;amp;fp=76147c48b2eb760f&amp;amp;biw=1366&amp;amp;bih=643"&gt;No Line ("Let me in the sound sound," "grace inside a sound," etc&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;)..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;check out &amp;nbsp;the new Crowder tracks,&amp;nbsp;"The Sound of Light" (here I especially appreciate the synesthesia reference, and that it's also &lt;a href="https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;q=%22holy+heterpoclite%22+U2+sound#pq=%22holy+heteroclite%22+u2+sound&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sugexp=pfwl&amp;amp;tok=cYzuCBToR6JjykgOycbxTA&amp;amp;cp=14&amp;amp;gs_id=2c&amp;amp;xhr=t&amp;amp;q=the+sound+of+light&amp;amp;pf=p&amp;amp;sclient=psy-ab&amp;amp;source=hp&amp;amp;pbx=1&amp;amp;oq=the+sound+of+l&amp;amp;aq=0&amp;amp;aqi=g4&amp;amp;aql=&amp;amp;gs_sm=&amp;amp;gs_upl=&amp;amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&amp;amp;fp=76147c48b2eb760f&amp;amp;biw=1366&amp;amp;bih=643"&gt;good physics&lt;/a&gt;)..and "There is a Sound."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is the universe at base music/sound?&lt;br /&gt;Or is it all light?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps the only &amp;nbsp;sound answer is yes &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which &lt;a href="https://www.google.com/search?aq=f&amp;amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;q=universe+is+light#sclient=psy-ab&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;source=hp&amp;amp;q=%22time+travel%22+%22speed+of+sound%22t&amp;amp;pbx=1&amp;amp;oq=%22time+travel%22+%22speed+of+sound%22t&amp;amp;aq=f&amp;amp;aqi=&amp;amp;aql=&amp;amp;gs_sm=e&amp;amp;gs_upl=11010l13073l1l13275l2l2l0l0l0l0l156l284l0.2l2l0&amp;amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&amp;amp;fp=76147c48b2eb760f&amp;amp;biw=1366&amp;amp;bih=643"&gt;might facilitate time trave&lt;/a&gt;l: &amp;nbsp;breaking the speed of sound or speed of light?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 class="r" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap;"&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 class="r" style="font-size: medium; font-weight: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-overflow: ellipsis;"&gt;&lt;a class="l" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/marker-trick-yep.html" style="color: #1122cc; cursor: pointer;"&gt;"Yep&lt;/a&gt;!"&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More to come...this project will take awhile to listen up....I mean, sound out.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-838632633037953335?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/838632633037953335/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/david-crowder-let-me-in-sound-of-light.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/838632633037953335'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/838632633037953335'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/david-crowder-let-me-in-sound-of-light.html' title='David Crowder: let me in the sound of light'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ehF8LiaWbdk/TxIuEZphGxI/AAAAAAAAF14/nqOnEUloCCs/s72-c/sound_waves.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-5241536614181823504</id><published>2012-01-12T20:49:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-12T20:49:35.204-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Bill Maher: "I'm a non-Christian, just like most Christians"</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/jrQfjaE1aRY" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-5241536614181823504?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/5241536614181823504/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/bill-maher-im-non-christian-just-like.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5241536614181823504'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5241536614181823504'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/bill-maher-im-non-christian-just-like.html' title='Bill Maher: &quot;I&apos;m a non-Christian, just like most Christians&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/jrQfjaE1aRY/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-6346901960270781769</id><published>2012-01-12T18:54:00.003-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-12T18:54:24.474-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality of music'/><title type='text'>Paul Simon on God</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width = "354" height = "227" &gt; 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&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kqBLIdYikCg/Tw9pr9ir5oI/AAAAAAAAF0Q/aHoqXXxyBXc/s1600/Freedom.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;img border="0" height="411" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kqBLIdYikCg/Tw9pr9ir5oI/AAAAAAAAF0Q/aHoqXXxyBXc/s640/Freedom.jpg" width="640" /&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/div&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;br /&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt; &amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/U4GsiEZKtS8" width="420"&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;read all about it &lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;here &amp;nbsp;(excerpt below)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2 style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 17px; left: 10px; position: relative; top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;Zenos’ statement about his vision of the sculpture&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;I wanted to create a sculpture almost anyone, regardless of their background, could look at and instantly recognize that it is about the idea of struggling to break free. This sculpture is about the struggle for achievement of freedom through the creative process.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;Although for me, this feeling sprang from a particular personal situation, I was conscious that it was a universal desire with almost everyone; that need to escape from some situation – be it an internal struggle or an adversarial circumstance, and to be free from it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9v4K6YzTsgo/Tw9xrftfMKI/AAAAAAAAF0Y/r37b_WftKmc/s1600/free.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9v4K6YzTsgo/Tw9xrftfMKI/AAAAAAAAF0Y/r37b_WftKmc/s640/free.png" width="500" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;I began this work in a very traditional sculptural manner by creating a small model in clay called a macquette. The purpose of beginning in this manner is to capture the large action and major proportions of the figure within the overall design without any details to detract from the big idea. Another reason for not having details and for working on a small model only a few inches in height is that the small armature within it, holding the clay, is more easily manipulated, allowing for much greater flexibility in developing a concept. For example, an arm, a leg or a head can be pushed around without any concern for obliterating details, such as a nose or a finger.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;The macquette is the original mass of clay where a concept is born and from which it grows and develops. This was important later when I enlarged the sculpture from several inches long to 20 feet long, and I retained in the larger work a sense that all the conceptual material, its forms, focus and development sprang from this rough idea. The work metamorphosized, in the way that we do.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;Although there are four figures represented, the work is really one figure moving from left to right. The composition develops from left to right beginning with a kind of mummy/death like captive figure locked into its background. In the second frame, the figure, reminiscent of Michaelangelo’s&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Rebellious Slave&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, begins to stir and struggle to escape. The figure in the third frame has torn himself from the wall that held him captive and is stepping out, reaching for freedom. In the fourth frame, the figure is entirely free, victorious, arms outstretched, completely away from the wall and from the grave space he left behind. He evokes an escape from his own mortality.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;In working on the large scale sculpture, I was satisfied that those who drove by getting a quick look at it would see the big picture: that it was about escape. I was also concerned that those who worked in the building and who passed the sculpture frequently would have something more to see. There was a lot of empty space between the figures on the wall, which I saw as an opportunity to develop further ideas.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;It was important to me that the sculpture have more than one theme going on at once. One of the other major ideas incorporated in the work is that the very process of creating the sculpture is clearly revealed in the work itself. The maquette is cast into the sculpture in the lower left hand corner. In the lower right corner is the cast of the sculptor’s hand holding the sculpture tool with two rolls of clay also cast in bronze. Throughout the background of the Wall, I have rolled out the clay and pressed it with my fingers so that my fingerprints are all over the sculpture. I have not hidden how I have made the piece. In fact, the whole idea of the macquette is enlarged so that all the figures in the background look like a giant macquette. And at the same time, as the figures move from left to right, I have shown how figures are developed when you are sculpting from the rough to the more finished product.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;Elements of the sculpture trade beside the tools that are cast into the sculpture are calipers both for their use in measuring and their reference to Protagoras’ words “&lt;em&gt;Man is the measure of all things.&lt;/em&gt;”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;Also cast into the sculpture is an anatomical man, traditionally used as a reference by sculptors. Many of the heads and figures on the wall, some in the round and some in relief, are shown partially sculpted, revealing the process of creation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;Something else I have done with the sculpture is that I have created a one man show of my work. I have always admired Rodin’s&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Gates of Hell&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. I similarly thought I would incorporate many sculptures into the wall where it was suitable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;Like T.S. Eliot and other artists, I have put many personal elements in my work. My friend Philip, a sculptor who died of AIDS, created a work that I included in Freedom because he often expressed his wish to have it in a public space. He did not live long enough to accomplish this himself. My cat, who lived with me for 20 years, my mother, father, and my self portrait are in the work. It is obvious which face is mine because there is a ballooned phrase coming from my mouth with the word “freedom”, written backwards, making it clear that the face was sculpted in a mirror. I see the whole Wall sculpture as a kind of illusion akin to Alice’s&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Through the Looking Glass&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;The sculpture contains an original Duane Hanson -- a bronze cast of my own hands that Duane cast for me as a gift.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;Much of what I did with this sculpture has to do with taking traditional forms and combining them in non-traditional ways, forming a postmodern sensibility. For example, I dropped a wax cast of my father’s bust from two or three feet in height so that it broke into large pieces. I cast those into the wall in a fractured manner over another face, an old work I found in a vat of clay purchased from a sculptor who had long ago died.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;I have hidden many things in the background for people who see the sculpture more than once to discover, such as a cast of coins – a nickel and two pennies, another nickel and two pennies, and two quarters and a penny. These represent not only the relationship between money and art, but the numerals 7-7-51, my birth date.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="background-color: #5d6370; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white;"&gt;It is important to me that the public interact with the sculpture, not just intellectually and emotionally but physically. I have created a space in which I have written&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;“stand here”&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;so that people can place themselves inside the sculpture and become part of the composition.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="content2" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-right: 100px; position: relative;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://zenosfrudakis.com/sculptures/public/Freedom.html"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: #5d6370; color: white; font-size: 13px;"&gt;In the end, this sculpture is a statement about the artist’s attempt to free himself from the constraints of mortality through a long lasting creative form.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: white; font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"&gt;LINK&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-3644883295967309164?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/3644883295967309164/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/public-interaction-sculpture-freedom.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3644883295967309164'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3644883295967309164'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/public-interaction-sculpture-freedom.html' title='a &quot;public interaction&quot;  sculpture: Freedom'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-a_AioRgXMro/Tw9z6TiePEI/AAAAAAAAF1A/8Qes_1dJfmc/s72-c/Freedom+guy.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-5846657121813956664</id><published>2012-01-12T14:55:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-12T14:55:09.667-08:00</updated><title type='text'>fully human, imagination and memory</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.marlonfhall.com/" style="background-color: white; color: #2361a1; font-family: 'Droid Serif', Calibri, 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank" title="marlon hall"&gt;Marlon Hall&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;object width="320" height="266" class="BLOG_video_class" id="BLOG_video-feb517ccfc2fa7c4" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/get_player"&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="flvurl=http://v8.nonxt8.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3Dfeb517ccfc2fa7c4%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330304555%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D5FD87137A0513140D243EFD2D5C699BCBB3EBBF9.605A45DD4B4E400AD0F427756511E90D49CAB11C%26key%3Dck1&amp;amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3Dfeb517ccfc2fa7c4%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DOwcX26ieO4ukXfp6-0uuPmT0row&amp;amp;autoplay=0&amp;amp;ps=blogger"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/get_player" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"width="320" height="266" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"flashvars="flvurl=http://v8.nonxt8.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?id%3Dfeb517ccfc2fa7c4%26itag%3D5%26app%3Dblogger%26ip%3D0.0.0.0%26ipbits%3D0%26expire%3D1330304555%26sparams%3Did,itag,ip,ipbits,expire%26signature%3D5FD87137A0513140D243EFD2D5C699BCBB3EBBF9.605A45DD4B4E400AD0F427756511E90D49CAB11C%26key%3Dck1&amp;iurl=http://video.google.com/ThumbnailServer2?app%3Dblogger%26contentid%3Dfeb517ccfc2fa7c4%26offsetms%3D5000%26itag%3Dw160%26sigh%3DOwcX26ieO4ukXfp6-0uuPmT0row&amp;autoplay=0&amp;ps=blogger"allowFullScreen="true" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-5846657121813956664?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/5846657121813956664/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/fully-human-imagination-and-memory.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5846657121813956664'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5846657121813956664'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/fully-human-imagination-and-memory.html' title='fully human, imagination and memory'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-9124234042003651293</id><published>2012-01-09T14:22:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-09T14:24:00.673-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ecclesiology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cathedrals'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='architecture'/><title type='text'>cathedral majesty and the  architectural ‘least of these’</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UoAy-2mZyDA/Twtobz2aMpI/AAAAAAAAFzY/Q83dq8RG4SM/s1600/catedra.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="216" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UoAy-2mZyDA/Twtobz2aMpI/AAAAAAAAFzY/Q83dq8RG4SM/s320/catedra.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;by Will Braun:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2 class="entry-title" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;h2 style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: center; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li style="color: #222222; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-weight: normal; line-height: 44px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.geezmagazine.org/magazine/article/dethrone-the-cathedral-majesty/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Dethrone the cathedral&amp;nbsp;majesty&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="color: #222222; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: large; font-weight: normal; line-height: 30px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.geezmagazine.org/blogs/entry/the-architectural-least-of-these/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The architectural ‘least of these’&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;see labels below&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-9124234042003651293?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/9124234042003651293/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/cathedral-majesty-and-architectural.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/9124234042003651293'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/9124234042003651293'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/cathedral-majesty-and-architectural.html' title='cathedral majesty and the  architectural ‘least of these’'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UoAy-2mZyDA/Twtobz2aMpI/AAAAAAAAFzY/Q83dq8RG4SM/s72-c/catedra.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-1280803513612316525</id><published>2012-01-08T14:06:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-08T14:06:22.164-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality of music'/><title type='text'>sheep without a shepherd/We don't know how to be alone</title><content type='html'>&lt;b style="background-color: #ccccdd; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; text-align: center;"&gt;"Learn To Be Still" &amp;nbsp;The Eagles (w. Don Henley)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: #ccccdd; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: #ccccdd; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: #ccccdd; font-family: Verdana, Arial; font-size: 13px; margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are like sheep without a shepherd&lt;br /&gt;We don't know how to be alone&lt;br /&gt;So we wander 'round this desert&lt;br /&gt;And wind up following the wrong gods home&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/gjBvxyEAyos" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-1280803513612316525?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/1280803513612316525/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/sheep-without-shepherdwe-dont-know-how.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1280803513612316525'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1280803513612316525'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/sheep-without-shepherdwe-dont-know-how.html' title='sheep without a shepherd/We don&apos;t know how to be alone'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/gjBvxyEAyos/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-5030620158044967262</id><published>2012-01-07T15:10:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-07T16:11:28.840-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='communitas'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading the Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='moltmann'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='role of the pastor'/><title type='text'>quiz: how many times is 'pastor' mentioned in the NT?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cG0J5nG1I3Y/Twje4-BEYiI/AAAAAAAAFzM/qOfwyga1fg0/s1600/math.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cG0J5nG1I3Y/Twje4-BEYiI/AAAAAAAAFzM/qOfwyga1fg0/s320/math.jpg" width="274" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4H3QwdQ3iMk/TwjOn7KfynI/AAAAAAAAFzE/xzXiA05I3vA/s1600/sub.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="172" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4H3QwdQ3iMk/TwjOn7KfynI/AAAAAAAAFzE/xzXiA05I3vA/s200/sub.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I love reminding peope of the community/communitas nature of the church by saying something like "Guess how many times the word 'pastor' shows up in the New Testament? &amp;nbsp;Only once, and in passing: Ephesians 4, where is it mentioned only as part of the shared leadership the church is called to have."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BUT I was wrong! &amp;nbsp;Thanks to Gary Amirault for straightening out my math and theology:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: #f7f2e6; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The word “pastor” doesn’t occur in the New Testament (KJV, NIV, NASK, NRSB) at all. Shocked? I was. The word “pastors” occurs ONCE in the N.T. in Ephesians 4:11 and NOT as a title. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tentmaker.org/Biblematters/pastor.htm"&gt;Gary Amirault&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Okay, that may evoke a groan, and seem like only a technicality to you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BUT, remember in &amp;nbsp;a parallel way, "saint" also appears a total of ZERO times in the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It also only shows up in the plural.&lt;br /&gt;And quite a few more times than "pastors."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It would seem the early church expectation was multiple saints with the gift of pastor are inevitably embedded in the local body. &amp;nbsp;And this likely has nothing to do with multiple pastoral staff. &amp;nbsp;It &amp;nbsp;has to do with many "laypeople" (a word that shows up nowhere is scripture, singular OR plural...so glad Moltmann highlights this, "&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=zYa5CqgU91MC&amp;amp;pg=PA129&amp;amp;dq=moltmann+source+lay+people&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=ZdAIT9DEGqXfiALul7SgCQ&amp;amp;ved=0CDYQuwUwAA#v=snippet&amp;amp;q=laity&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;The Source," p. 95&lt;/a&gt;) walking in their gifts..&lt;br /&gt;whether in the gathering, or (more importantly) in the "world" (I remember commissioning Regean as the "pastor to Jiffy Lube").&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I realize one might count "shepherd" as the same biblical term as pastor, which opens up other references..but this gets just as subversive, if as in John 10, a "shepherd/pastor is to know all her/his sheep BY NAME."&lt;br /&gt;All this might entail blowing up the &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2006/03/reduction-of-seduction-part-2-gleaning.html"&gt;22nd row of pews&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; (better yet all pews...is that word in the Book?). &lt;br /&gt;More? C&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/10/actual-inteview-wst-paul-chain-saw.html"&gt;hain saw the pulpit&lt;/a&gt;..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Related:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="gs-title" style="background-color: white; color: #172a83; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; height: 1.4em; line-height: 1.5em; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; position: static; text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;a class="gs-title" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2006/06/crash-of-rhinosa-committee-of-buzzards.html" style="color: #757575; cursor: pointer; height: 1.4em; line-height: 1.5em; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;" target="_blank"&gt;A Crash of Rhinos...a Committee of&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;Buzzards&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--&lt;br /&gt;Related..I often say this, too. &amp;nbsp;Will I have to append or amend it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #383838; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/11/preacher-is-not-in-bible.html"&gt;"All American pastors know that&amp;nbsp; the Bible knows nothing of a weekly meeting where a pastor preaches a sermon.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-5030620158044967262?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/5030620158044967262/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/quiz-how-many-times-is-pastor-mentioned.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5030620158044967262'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5030620158044967262'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/quiz-how-many-times-is-pastor-mentioned.html' title='quiz: how many times is &apos;pastor&apos; mentioned in the NT?'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cG0J5nG1I3Y/Twje4-BEYiI/AAAAAAAAFzM/qOfwyga1fg0/s72-c/math.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-2938780824137424843</id><published>2012-01-07T14:44:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-07T16:12:33.091-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sarcastic lutheran'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='celtic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sexuality'/><title type='text'>sexuality at the Wild Goose</title><content type='html'>&lt;img border="0" height="0" src="http://c.gigcount.com/wildfire/IMP/CXNID=2000002.11NXC/bT*xJmx*PTEzMjU5NzYyMjE1NTUmcHQ9MTMyNTk3NjIyNTQxNSZwPSZkPSZnPTImbz*5Y2UzYjcyYzFiOWM*NmZhOWY1ODhmNWQz/YzIyZDQwNyZvZj*w.gif" style="height: 0px; 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I knew this &amp;nbsp;is someone who understands"..)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-6525479123085304869?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/6525479123085304869/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/moltmann-on-why-he-is-not-universalist.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6525479123085304869'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6525479123085304869'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/moltmann-on-why-he-is-not-universalist.html' title='Moltmann on why he is not a universalist'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-7103965487253429548</id><published>2012-01-07T12:47:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-07T12:47:06.992-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='moltmann'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ecclesiology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='role of the pastor'/><title type='text'>Moltmann: abandon the pastoral church</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-T9O7wWDaVuM/TwiuzSx4TbI/AAAAAAAAFy0/2Kl6zCpONSc/s1600/moltmann_gr.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-T9O7wWDaVuM/TwiuzSx4TbI/AAAAAAAAFy0/2Kl6zCpONSc/s1600/moltmann_gr.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"&gt;"If Christianity&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"&gt;is to become aware of what it is,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"&gt;we must abandon the pastoral church&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"&gt;which takes care of people,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"&gt;which is the usual form&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"&gt;of the Western church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"&gt;Instead,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"&gt;we have to call to life a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: large;"&gt;Christian community church." &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2 class="page-title" id="page-title" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #880022; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 18pt; font-weight: normal; line-height: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 4px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;-Jürgen Moltmann, "&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=zYa5CqgU91MC&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;dq=J%C3%BCrgen+Moltmann,+%22The+Source+of+Life,&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=LK8IT_utFcWyiQKZsrSeCQ&amp;amp;sqi=2&amp;amp;ved=0CFQQuwUwAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=J%C3%BCrgen%20Moltmann%2C%20%22The%20Source%20of%20Life%2C&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;The Source of Life," p. 96&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-7103965487253429548?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/7103965487253429548/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/moltmann-abandon-pastoral-church.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7103965487253429548'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7103965487253429548'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/moltmann-abandon-pastoral-church.html' title='Moltmann: abandon the pastoral church'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-T9O7wWDaVuM/TwiuzSx4TbI/AAAAAAAAFy0/2Kl6zCpONSc/s72-c/moltmann_gr.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-8496103524463850912</id><published>2012-01-05T18:39:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-05T18:39:32.629-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality of music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sexuality'/><title type='text'>Pop Star's Single, 'Booty Wave', Most Likely Civilization's Downfall</title><content type='html'>lll&lt;iframe frameborder="no" height="270" scrolling="no" src="http://www.theonion.com/video_embed/?id=26868" width="480"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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Others develop a heightened sense of self-importance and arrogance, as they slap the word “biblical” in front of each of their opinions, claiming to speak on behalf of God on every given topic.  Still others live complete lies, lecturing the congregation on the importance money management on Sunday while struggling to overcome secret credit card debt on Monday.  Others project their insecurities and obsessions onto their followers and demand that everyone look just like them. Very few manage to remain humble, honest, and brave in the face of our unrealistic expectations. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;And so I believe we all bear some responsibility for creating an environment in which controversial Seattle pastor Mark Driscoll can write a book about sex and marriage that tops the Amazon bestseller list.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Given Driscoll’s &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=11788" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;em&gt;alarming preoccupation with sex and “masculinity,”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; and &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/magazine/11punk-t.html" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;em&gt;the immaturity with which he has addressed these subjects in the past&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;, one would think Christians would approach this book the way they would approach a book about nutrition written by a pastor who struggles with obesity...(or a book about overcoming procrastination written by me!)  But Pastor Mark continues to grow a&lt;strong&gt;..&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;-&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Rachel &amp;nbsp;Held Evans, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/mark-driscoll-real-marriage"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;CONTINUED HERE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-4835585790822032781?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/4835585790822032781/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/pastors-as-sexperts-and-our.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/4835585790822032781'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/4835585790822032781'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/pastors-as-sexperts-and-our.html' title='pastors as sexperts, and our sexpectations of them...especially Driscoll'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WyknWV_bDHA/TwX5YPbRQVI/AAAAAAAAFyg/d1_qMWyiqVo/s72-c/home_alone_shocked.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-3731305760437307766</id><published>2012-01-05T11:14:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-05T11:33:15.417-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading the Bible'/><title type='text'>"What does it really mean to be lukewarm'"?</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0" id="twttrHubFrame" name="twttrHubFrame" scrolling="no" src="http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/hub.1324331373.html" style="height: 10px; position: absolute; top: -9999em; width: 10px;" tabindex="0"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;As a follow-up to my post, &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/wwjp-why-would-jesus-puke-lets-be-hot.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #172a83; font-size: small;"&gt;WWJP  Why Would Jesus Puke?: let's be hot AND cold, as Jesus wants&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;" ..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;here is a helpful video by &lt;a href="http://jmsmith.org/about/"&gt;James-Michael Smith&lt;/a&gt; from his&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://jmsmith.org/store/bible/"&gt;The Bible For the Rest of Us&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;DVD series:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/chwwiW8hKog" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-3731305760437307766?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/3731305760437307766/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/what-does-it-really-mean-to-be-lukewarm.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3731305760437307766'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3731305760437307766'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/what-does-it-really-mean-to-be-lukewarm.html' title='&quot;What does it really mean to be lukewarm&apos;&quot;?'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/chwwiW8hKog/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-6130286808229193744</id><published>2012-01-04T17:59:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-04T18:56:14.286-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality of music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='synesthesia'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sound theory'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='book reviews'/><title type='text'>"For What It's Worth": "watch that sound" or "what's that sound"?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ez2gcrHrPT0/TNLBF2oE3UI/AAAAAAAAEcM/YSPnrptePxc/s1600/huh.gif" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ez2gcrHrPT0/TNLBF2oE3UI/AAAAAAAAEcM/YSPnrptePxc/s200/huh.gif" width="181" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;My first thought:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;How could I have misheard that lyric for forty-some years?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My second thought:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;If this "new" reading is right, it's a classic example of a synesthesia  reference.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My third thought:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: #f3f3f3;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: lime;"&gt;After googling annd seeing that the 'new' interpretation &amp;nbsp;is definitely a minority opinion, I am not convinced yet..but quite intrigued.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My fourth thought:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #783f04;"&gt;The source is quite credible: Daniel Levitin, someone who has met and interviewed the songwriters.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hmm..what do you think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was reading along in Levitin's wonderful book,&lt;a href="http://daniellevitin.com/publicpage/books/the-world-in-six-songs/"&gt; "The World in Six Songs,&lt;/a&gt;" and hit page 70, where he matter- of-factly quoted the Buffalo Springfield classic, "For What It's Worth" as:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;We gotta stop hey watch that sound&lt;br /&gt;Everybody look what's going down&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Huh? I had never considered the lyric was anything other than what I've always heard:&lt;br /&gt;"what's that sound?"..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BUT if this reading is correct, it's yet another classic literary reference to "synesthesia"!&lt;br /&gt;How do you WATCH a SOUND?&lt;br /&gt;This of course connects to&lt;a href="https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;amp;client=firefox-a&amp;amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&amp;amp;hs=cK0&amp;amp;q=%22holy+heteroclite%22+synesthesia&amp;amp;btnG=Search#sclient=psy-ab&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;client=firefox-a&amp;amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&amp;amp;source=hp&amp;amp;q=%22holy+heteroclite%22+%22see+the+voice%22&amp;amp;pbx=1&amp;amp;oq=%22holy+heteroclite%22+%22see+the+voice%22&amp;amp;aq=f&amp;amp;aqi=&amp;amp;aql=&amp;amp;gs_sm=e&amp;amp;gs_upl=19656l24695l0l24944l18l15l0l0l0l0l234l2272l3.8.4l15l0&amp;amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&amp;amp;fp=a1bc1589ec616832&amp;amp;biw=1366&amp;amp;bih=600"&gt; Revelation 1:8 where John turned to &amp;nbsp;synesthetically SEE the VOICE &lt;/a&gt;of Jesus..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And note the song lyric makes sense, as the next line is "Everybody LOOK" (not "listen")..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hmmm...what do YOU hear?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A quick googling suggests that Levitin's reading is far in the minority...but note when the Staple Singers covered the song, they actually had the "watch that sound" lyric printed on the label of their record...see fourth video below at the&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.699219); color: #333333; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;:14 and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n9Rgkpz7yE#" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.699219); border-image: initial; border-width: 0px; color: #1c62b9; cursor: pointer; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"&gt;1:37&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; mark (Note on the comments below that video on YouTube &amp;nbsp;laugh at that obvious "mistake.')&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But do Levitin and the Staples know something that most of the world doesn't?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope so..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Listen up, "watch for the sound" of the lyric and weigh in with what you hear/see. &lt;br /&gt;To quote the song itself, "what it is ain't exactly clear"..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyone (like Levitin) know the songwriter Stephen Stills to verify?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Several videos and the usual lyrics below..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Note: the lyric jury is also still out on &lt;a href="https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;amp;client=firefox-a&amp;amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&amp;amp;hs=cK0&amp;amp;q=%22holy+heteroclite%22+synesthesia&amp;amp;btnG=Search#sclient=psy-ab&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;client=firefox-a&amp;amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&amp;amp;source=hp&amp;amp;q=%22holy+heteroclite%22+%22see+the+voice%22&amp;amp;pbx=1&amp;amp;oq=%22holy+heteroclite%22+%22see+the+voice%22&amp;amp;aq=f&amp;amp;aqi=&amp;amp;aql=&amp;amp;gs_sm=e&amp;amp;gs_upl=19656l24695l0l24944l18l15l0l0l0l0l234l2272l3.8.4l15l0&amp;amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&amp;amp;fp=a1bc1589ec616832&amp;amp;biw=1366&amp;amp;bih=600"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; Who song.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Note: And you might enjoy a &lt;a href="http://www.kissthisguy.com/funny.php"&gt;list&lt;/a&gt; or two of funny misheard lyrics&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Note: If the synsethesia line is correct, I have more reading on a sound-watchiing epistemology in rock music. Click, for example,&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #757575; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small; text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2009/03/u2s-no-line-part-5-sound-epistemology.html" style="color: #757575; text-decoration: none;"&gt;U2's "No Line" part 5: a sound epistemology of faith in God, not in certainty&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2010/09/furniture-music.html" style="background-color: white; color: #172bff; font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: small; text-decoration: none;"&gt;Furniture Music&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #383838; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; or &amp;nbsp;posts tagged "synesthesia" below.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;From Levitin: &lt;em&gt;Writing a review of a documentary about the sixties (broadcast in 2007), New York Times critic Neil Genzlinger said, “That astonishing song came to encapsulate ‘60s turmoil so perfectly that resorting to it is a subconscious admission by a documentarian. 'I have nothing to say that Stephen Stills didn’t say better in 2 minutes, 41 seconds.  Its instantly recognizable two-tone opening rings like an alarm bell.'”&lt;/em&gt; (&lt;a href="http://daniellevitin.com/publicpage/books/the-world-in-six-songs/the-world-in-six-songs-the-songs-in-this-book/"&gt;p.70)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #757575; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;There's something happening here&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;What it is ain't exactly clear&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;There's a man with a gun over there&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Telling me I got to beware&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;I think it's time we stop, children, &lt;b&gt;what's that sound&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Everybody look what's going down&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;There's battle lines being drawn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Nobody's right if everybody's wrong&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Young people speaking their minds&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Getting so much resistance from behind&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;I think it's time we stop, hey, &lt;b&gt;what's that sound&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Everybody look what's going down&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;What a field-day for the heat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;A thousand people in the street&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Singing songs and carrying signs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Mostly say, hooray for our side&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;It's time we stop, hey, &lt;b&gt;what's that sound&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Everybody look what's going down&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Paranoia strikes deep&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Into your life it will creep&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;It starts when you're always afraid&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;You step out of line, the man come and take you away&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;We better stop, hey, what's that sound&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Everybody look what's going down&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Stop, hey, &lt;b&gt;what's that sound&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Everybody look what's going down&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Stop, now, &lt;b&gt;what's that sound&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Everybody look what's going down&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Stop, children, &lt;b&gt;what's that sound&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 16px;" /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Everybody look what's going down&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;\&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DIoKr9VDg3A" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="360" width="640"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wm6NeM-6vBE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;version=3"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wm6NeM-6vBE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="360"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.699219); color: #333333; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; text-align: left;"&gt;see :14 and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n9Rgkpz7yE#" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.699219); border-image: initial; border-width: 0px; color: #1c62b9; cursor: pointer; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"&gt;1:37&lt;/a&gt;here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2n9Rgkpz7yE" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2010 reunion:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/pM7aFtI2fF8" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img alt="" aria-busy="false" aria-describedby="fbPhotosSnowboxCaption" class="spotlight" height="480" src="http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/374197_10150571103333245_669508244_10752672_344700676_n.jpg" style="background-color: #f6f6f6; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #333333; display: inline-block; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 0px; height: auto; line-height: 526px; max-height: 100%; max-width: 100%; text-align: center; vertical-align: middle; width: auto;" width="640" /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-6130286808229193744?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/6130286808229193744/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/for-what-its-worth-watch-that-sound-or.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6130286808229193744'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6130286808229193744'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/for-what-its-worth-watch-that-sound-or.html' title='&quot;For What It&apos;s Worth&quot;: &quot;watch that sound&quot; or &quot;what&apos;s that sound&quot;?'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ez2gcrHrPT0/TNLBF2oE3UI/AAAAAAAAEcM/YSPnrptePxc/s72-c/huh.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-7240474506019682444</id><published>2012-01-04T16:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-04T16:56:58.113-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading the Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ecclesiology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='role of the pastor'/><title type='text'>Meadowbig Church, Dr. Flockshorn and Berean Lionel</title><content type='html'>From &lt;a href="http://www.sheepcomics.com/strips/berean/Berean.htm"&gt;THE SHEEP COMIX:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rPYC49ojGDA/TwT0mrQv0bI/AAAAAAAAFyU/cH2JxiWh3OY/s1600/berean1.gif" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="281" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rPYC49ojGDA/TwT0mrQv0bI/AAAAAAAAFyU/cH2JxiWh3OY/s400/berean1.gif" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;STORY CONTINUED &lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sheepcomics.com/strips/berean/Berean.htm"&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-7240474506019682444?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/7240474506019682444/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/meadowbig-church-dr-flockshorn-and.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7240474506019682444'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7240474506019682444'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/meadowbig-church-dr-flockshorn-and.html' title='Meadowbig Church, Dr. Flockshorn and Berean Lionel'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rPYC49ojGDA/TwT0mrQv0bI/AAAAAAAAFyU/cH2JxiWh3OY/s72-c/berean1.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-7235398087511286054</id><published>2012-01-03T16:10:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-03T16:10:47.057-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Colbert'/><title type='text'>Colbert on religion</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/oBWBpo5aDLw" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/LICTg6CLTf8" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Q1MUkv5quGo" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-7235398087511286054?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/7235398087511286054/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/colbert-on-religion.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7235398087511286054'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7235398087511286054'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/colbert-on-religion.html' title='Colbert on religion'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/oBWBpo5aDLw/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-7599184599424243655</id><published>2012-01-02T17:16:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-02T17:16:39.789-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality of music'/><title type='text'>THE POWER &amp; 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line-height: 23px; margin-bottom: 1em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 3em; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.craigkeener.com/free-resources/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;here&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-2586264907654574913?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/2586264907654574913/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/bible-in-its-context-how-to-improve.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/2586264907654574913'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/2586264907654574913'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/bible-in-its-context-how-to-improve.html' title='&quot;The Bible in Its Context: How to Improve Your Study of the Scriptures&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aiMHzgSYA5s/TwJUnj2sPCI/AAAAAAAAFyI/OMRDb2lA8XU/s72-c/arrow_blue_right.svg.med.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-4256041453540411831</id><published>2012-01-02T15:55:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-05T11:15:48.327-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ray van der laan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Craig Keener'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading the Bible'/><title type='text'>WWJP Why Would Jesus Puke?: let's be hot AND cold, as Jesus wants</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0" id="twttrHubFrame" name="twttrHubFrame" scrolling="no" src="http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/hub.1324331373.html" style="height: 10px; position: absolute; top: -9999em; width: 10px;" tabindex="0"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FQ-BTN7PVjQ/TwJCaRmrwkI/AAAAAAAAFx8/u3n2IEknCNw/s1600/puking.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FQ-BTN7PVjQ/TwJCaRmrwkI/AAAAAAAAFx8/u3n2IEknCNw/s320/puking.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: &amp;quot;Charis SIL&amp;quot;, charis, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why WOULD Jesus puke, anyway?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white;"&gt;(r&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #006600; font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;elated, see&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2010/02/delayed-vomit-real-metaphor-communal.html" style="background-color: white; font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;"the call to go into ministry is a lot like throwing up"&lt;/a&gt;)??&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So many are baffled by why Jesus would seemingly rather have us be 'cold' than lukewarm..&lt;br /&gt;makes for some bizarre &amp;nbsp;and forced sermons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This one on Revelation &amp;nbsp;3:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: &amp;quot;Charis SIL&amp;quot;, charis, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span class="woj" style="background-color: white; font-family: &amp;quot;Charis SIL&amp;quot;, charis, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-30761" style="font-weight: bold; vertical-align: text-top;"&gt;14&lt;/sup&gt;&amp;nbsp;“To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: &amp;quot;Charis SIL&amp;quot;, charis, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: &amp;quot;Charis SIL&amp;quot;, charis, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="woj"&gt;These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="woj"&gt;&lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-30762" style="font-weight: bold; vertical-align: text-top;"&gt;15&lt;/sup&gt;&amp;nbsp;I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other!&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="woj"&gt;&lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-30763" style="font-weight: bold; vertical-align: text-top;"&gt;16&lt;/sup&gt;&amp;nbsp;So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="woj"&gt;&lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-30764" style="font-weight: bold; vertical-align: text-top;"&gt;17&lt;/sup&gt;&amp;nbsp;You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="woj"&gt;&lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-30765" style="font-weight: bold; vertical-align: text-top;"&gt;18&lt;/sup&gt;&amp;nbsp;I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: &amp;quot;Charis SIL&amp;quot;, charis, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="woj"&gt;&lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-30766" style="font-weight: bold; vertical-align: text-top;"&gt;19&lt;/sup&gt;&amp;nbsp;Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="woj"&gt;&lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-30767" style="font-weight: bold; vertical-align: text-top;"&gt;20&lt;/sup&gt;&amp;nbsp;Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: &amp;quot;Charis SIL&amp;quot;, charis, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="woj"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-30768" style="font-weight: bold; vertical-align: text-top;"&gt;21&lt;/sup&gt;&amp;nbsp;To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his thro&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;ne.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="woj"&gt;&lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-30769" style="font-weight: bold; vertical-align: text-top;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 0.65em;"&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet ANOTHER misunsderstood and eisegeted scripture (see&lt;a class="l" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/05/dont-forget-assembling-together-yada.html" style="background-color: white; color: #1122cc; cursor: pointer; font-family: arial, sans-serif; white-space: nowrap;"&gt;: "Don't forget the assembling together.."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and &amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #383838; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;a class="l" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/12/i-am-in-sin-if-i-avoid-appearance-of.html" style="color: #2200c1; cursor: pointer;"&gt;I am in sin if I "avoid the&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;"&gt;appearance&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="font-style: normal; font-weight: bold;"&gt;evil&lt;/em&gt;"&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; and "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; color: #383838; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;a class="l vst" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2009/05/of-course-christians-will-be-left.html" style="color: #551a8b; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #551a8b; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="cursor: pointer;"&gt;of course Christians will be&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style="color: #551a8b; cursor: pointer; font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"&gt;left behind&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;")...&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2010/01/versitis-apples-and-oranges-len-sweet.html" style="background-color: white; color: #172bff; font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;Verse-itis is deadly&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We just assume "cold water" &amp;nbsp;obviously = bad, and &amp;nbsp;"hot water" obviously = good." &amp;nbsp;You can google a thousand sermons with that point. &amp;nbsp;It's just too tempting to preach!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But they are likely well-meaning adventures in missing the meaning and point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;As usual, much of the answer is catching the historical context. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe all along Jesus wanted us to be hot AND cold.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two of the masters here are &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;Craig Keener&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt; (who is behind the invaluable &amp;nbsp;B&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/keener-on-miracles.html"&gt;ible Background Commentary on the NT&lt;/a&gt; &amp;nbsp;):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div style="border-image: initial; border-width: 0px; font-family: Georgia, Times, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 23px; margin-bottom: 1em; outline-width: 0px; padding: 0px 10px 0px 0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 3em; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: yellow;"&gt;The one sphere of life in which Laodiceans could not pretend to be self-sufficient was their water supply!&amp;nbsp; Laodicea had to pipe in its water from elsewhere, and by the time it arrived it was full of sediment; Laodicea actually acquired a bad reputation for its water supply.&amp;nbsp; Jesus comments on the temperature of the water: they were lukewarm, neither cold nor hot.&amp;nbsp; This does not mean, as some have suggested, that hot water was good but cold water was bad; Jesus would not want the Laodiceans “good or bad,” but only good.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-image: initial; border-width: 0px; font-family: Georgia, Times, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 23px; margin-bottom: 1em; outline-width: 0px; padding: 0px 10px 0px 0px; text-align: justify; text-indent: 3em; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: yellow;"&gt;Cold water was preferred for drinking, and hot water for bathing (also sometimes drunk at banquets), but the natural lukewarmness of local water (in contrast with the hot water available at nearby Hierapolis or cold water of nearby mountains) was undoubtedly a standard complaint of local residents, most of whom had an otherwise comfortable lifestyle.&amp;nbsp; Jesus is saying: “Were you hot (i.e., for bathing) or cold (i.e., for drinking), you would be useful; but as it is, you are simply disgusting.&amp;nbsp; I feel toward you the way you feel toward your water supply–you make me sick.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: yellow;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.craigkeener.com/because-you-are-lukewarm-i-will-spit-you-out-%E2%80%94-revelation-315-18/"&gt;Link: Craig Keener&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;Ray Van DerLaan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, audio &lt;a href="http://www.followtherabbi.com/Brix?pageID=5554"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;here,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; or read below:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: yellow;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2 style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Palatino, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 1.8em; letter-spacing: -1px; line-height: 1.3em; margin: 4px 0px 6px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: yellow;"&gt;Laodicea&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;img class="imageright" src="http://www.followtherabbi.com/ttwmk2/images/fl-part4_laodicea.jpg" style="border-image: initial; border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); clear: left; display: block; float: right; font-family: &amp;quot;Lucida Grande&amp;quot;, Lucida, &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, HelveticaNeue, &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;, Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 5px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; position: relative;" title="Laodicea" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="articlebody" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Lucida Grande&amp;quot;, Lucida, &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, HelveticaNeue, &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;, Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: yellow;"&gt;During the first century, the city of Laodicea was the richest and most powerful of the three cities. Located in the Lycus River Valley on the main trade route between the Mediterranean region and Persia, Laodicea was known for its soft black wool that was appreciated throughout the Roman world; its healing eye salve; and its banking. In fact, an ancient writer recorded that the city of approximately 120,000 people refused an emperor?s offer to rebuild following an earthquake. The Laodiceans apparently told the emperor that they were rich and didn?t need his money.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: yellow;"&gt;Despite its prosperity, however, Laodicea had a serious problem. Its water, unlike the healing hot springs of Hierapolis or the fresh, cold mountain water of Colosse, was lukewarm and full of minerals. It tasted so bad that it made people sick.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: yellow;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h2 style="color: #333333; font-family: Georgia, Palatino, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, Times, serif; font-size: 1.8em; letter-spacing: -1px; line-height: 1.3em; margin: 4px 0px 6px; padding: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: yellow;"&gt;Changing the World by Being Hot&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;Cold&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;img class="imageright" src="http://www.followtherabbi.com/ttwmk2/images/fl-part5_laodicea.jpg" style="border-image: initial; border: 1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); clear: left; display: block; float: right; font-family: &amp;quot;Lucida Grande&amp;quot;, Lucida, &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, HelveticaNeue, &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;, Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 5px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; position: relative;" title="Changing the World by Being Hot &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;and&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; Cold" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="articlebody" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Lucida Grande&amp;quot;, Lucida, &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, HelveticaNeue, &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;, Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 17px;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: yellow;"&gt;In light of the water for which the cities of Hierapolis, Colosse and Laodicea were known, the apostle John might have been saying, ?If you were hot, like the springs of Hierapolis, you?d bring healing, restoration, and comfort to people who suffer. If you were cold, like the water in Colosse, you?d refresh and encourage people who are hurting. Instead, you are lukewarm. You don't do anyone any good and you make me sick-just like your own water. So he challenged Christians today to be hot and cold in our daily lives.. to bring people the healing, caring, encouraging touch of Jesus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.followtherabbi.com/Brix?pageID=5554"&gt;&lt;i style="background-color: yellow;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;Link: Ray Van DerLaan&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Later note: I found is a helpful video by &lt;a href="http://jmsmith.org/about/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #172a83;"&gt;James-Michael  Smith&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; from his  &lt;a href="http://jmsmith.org/store/bible/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #172a83;"&gt;The Bible For the Rest of Us&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; DVD series, and posted it &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: yellow; font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/what-does-it-really-mean-to-be-lukewarm.html"&gt;HERE.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-4256041453540411831?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/4256041453540411831/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/wwjp-why-would-jesus-puke-lets-be-hot.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/4256041453540411831'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/4256041453540411831'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/wwjp-why-would-jesus-puke-lets-be-hot.html' title='WWJP Why Would Jesus Puke?: let&apos;s be hot AND cold, as Jesus wants'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FQ-BTN7PVjQ/TwJCaRmrwkI/AAAAAAAAFx8/u3n2IEknCNw/s72-c/puking.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-2603038857723067979</id><published>2012-01-01T14:08:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-01T14:08:25.730-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='moltmann'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ecclesiology'/><title type='text'>Moltmann: church marketing and practiced atheism</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;Moltmann:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;The privatization of religion has as its presupposition its&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;de-politicization&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt;and as a consequence its&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;marketing&lt;/em&gt;. What is called modern multifaith and multicultural society is nothing other than the total market society. Religions and cultures are on display in this market in just the same way as political options, commodities and services. Religions become the spiritual services on offer in the religious supermarket of the modern world. Individual religious liberty is certainly a powerful protection for every person’s own human dignity, but because of the typical Western concept of the consumer’s freedom to choose or dispose, that same freedom has turned religion into a commodity, where the customer is allegedly always right. Marketed religions take on the characterisitcs of goods on sale…&lt;br /&gt;In the multifaith consumer society, peace reigns between the religious communities. That is a fact. But this religious peace is achieved through the political shut-down on religion, its privatization and marketing- not through recognition and esteem, but by reducing religion to insignificance. One does not have to be a fundamentalist to see this as practiced atheism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; color: #555555; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_631936224"&gt;&amp;nbsp;-God for a Secular Society&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href="http://danielleshroyer.com/2011/11/14/moltmann-on-seminaries-privatization-and-marketing/"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #555555; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;, Moltmann's &amp;nbsp;chapter “Theology in the Modern University.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-2603038857723067979?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/2603038857723067979/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/moltmann-church-marketing-and-practiced.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/2603038857723067979'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/2603038857723067979'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/moltmann-church-marketing-and-practiced.html' title='Moltmann: church marketing and practiced atheism'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-1724730760439381184</id><published>2012-01-01T14:01:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-01T14:01:34.869-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='n.t. wright'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading the Bible'/><title type='text'>"Heavy Theological Dude (N.T. Wright) Mistakenly Talks to Wittenburg Door"</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UlP56lLufMU/TwDXMLDZWrI/AAAAAAAAFxw/DA0HRnT5ars/s1600/wright.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UlP56lLufMU/TwDXMLDZWrI/AAAAAAAAFxw/DA0HRnT5ars/s1600/wright.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 15px;"&gt;The Wittenburg Door is &amp;nbsp;so cool..They gave us permission to reprint anything (with a &lt;a href="http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/index.html"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;), so here is their 2007 interview with N.T. Wright (by the delightful &lt;a href="http://www.beckygarrison.com/"&gt;Becky Garrison).&lt;/a&gt; &amp;nbsp;Pray the Door &lt;a href="http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/index.html"&gt;opens again&lt;/a&gt;, btw. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 15px;"&gt;--------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h1 style="background-color: white; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style', Bookman, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; line-height: 1.1em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: -6px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Heavy Theological Dude Mistakenly Talks to Us&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;strong style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;The Wittenburg Door&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;Interview: N.T. “Tom” Wright&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;strong style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;By Becky Garrison&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" src="http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/files/weblogo1.gif" style="border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://link/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;link&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;N.T. Wright is the Bishop of Durham, England—the home of one of the most beautiful cathedrals in the world.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;He’s also the rare sort of theologian who attracts respect from both conservatives and liberals. Among his forty plus books include such provocative titles as&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;Simply Christian&lt;/em&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;Judas and the Gospel of Jesus&lt;/em&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;The Last Word&lt;/em&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;Paul&lt;/em&gt;, and&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;Evil and the Justice of God&lt;/em&gt;. He taught New Testament studies for twenty years at Cambridge, McGill, and Oxford universities.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;Wright became Bishop of Durham in 2003, and served on the Archbishop of Canterbury’s Lambeth Commission on Communion. (For our non-Anglican readers, this group crafted the Windsor Report, which is a document designed to help the Anglican Communion resolve its conflicts about homosexuality, ordination and pastoral blessings for gay couples.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thedoormagazi-20&amp;amp;l=ur2&amp;amp;o=1" style="border-bottom-style: none !important; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial !important; border-color: initial; border-image: initial !important; border-left-style: none !important; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-style: none !important; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-style: none !important; border-top-width: 0px; border-width: initial !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; margin-left: 0px !important; margin-right: 0px !important; margin-top: 0px !important; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" width="1" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;In short, Tom Wright is a big hitter in a big league. We grabbed him at the annual meeting of the American Academy of Religion/Society of Biblical Literature (AAR/SBL) in Washington, D.C., where we were selling souvenir palm-buzzers in the lobby.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;strong style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WITTENBURG DOOR:&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;What does it mean for us to be living in the fifth act: the time of the church?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;strong style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;N.T. WRIGHT&lt;/strong&gt;: In&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;The Last Word&lt;/em&gt;, I explain that we can understand the Bible best if we read it as a five-act play, the five acts being Creation, Fall, Israel, Jesus and Church. We are not living in an unfallen creation; or in a fallen world without promise; or in the time of Israel BC; or, indeed, in the time of Jesus himself. We are living in&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;the fifth&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;act, and have to improvise, under the guidance of the Spirit, in such a way as to bring this narrative—not some other one!—to its appointed and proper conclusion. In other words, to implement the achievement of Jesus and thus to anticipate the promise of new heavens and new earth.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Why do we need the Bible?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;The Bible is here to equip God’s people to carry forward His purposes of new covenant and new creation. It is there to enable people to work for justice, to sustain their spirituality as they do so, to create and enhance relationships at every level, and to produce that new creation which will have something of the beauty of God himself. The Bible isn’t like an accurate description of how a car is made. It’s more like the mechanic who helps you fix it, the garage attendant who refuels it, and the guide who tells you how to get where you’re going. And where you’re going is to make God’s new creation happen in his world, not simply to find your own way unscathed through the old creation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;So, how do we balance the experience of the church with the authority of scripture?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Um, this is starting to sound like an oral exam.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Sorry, but you did write a lot of books. There’s a lot of theological turf to cover here.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;As we read scripture, we struggle to understand what God is doing through the world and through us. The phrase “authority of scripture” can make Christian sense only if it is shorthand for “the authority of the triune God, exercised somehow through scripture.” When we examine what the authority of scripture means we’re talking about God’s authority which is invested in Jesus himself, who says “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” (Matthew 28:18, NRSV)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Of course, this “authority” phrase is one of the many scripture quotes that have been misused throughout history by those religious leaders who want to justify their stance on a given socio-political position.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;In Christian theology, such phrases regularly act as “portable stories”—that is, ways of packing up longer narratives about God, Jesus, the Church and the world, folding them away into convenient suitcases, and then carrying them about with us. Shorthands enable us to pick up lots of complicated things and carry them around all together. But we should never forget that the point in doing so, like the point of carrying belongings in a suitcase, is that what has been packed away can then be unpacked and put to use in the new location. Too much debate about scriptural authority has had the form of people hitting one another with locked suitcases. It is time to unpack our shorthand doctrines, to lay them out and inspect them. Long years in a suitcase may have made some of the contents go moldy. They will benefit from fresh air, and perhaps a hot iron.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;How do you respond to those who interpret scripture using the lens of personal experience?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Experience is a slippery slope philosophically and spiritually. It’s a fog in which all sorts of worlds can bump together. Now, no one wants to go to extremes. Some lines are drawn in the sand. For example, no one in their right mind would endorse mass murder. But we need to follow a path of wisdom and have standards.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;When you come into the life of the Church, there is a way of life followed there. There are codes of conduct. It’s like when you come into someone’s home. You take off your muddy boots when you enter the house.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;You don’t take tea and pour it down someone’s back. There are standards in how we live together. Experience needs to be affirmed, redirected, and rebuked by God’s authority. Because of our propensity to self-deception, we constantly need to check against scripture, whether we are allowing the word of God’s grace in the gospel, and God’s reaffirmation of us as made in his image, to validate what is in fact an idolatrous and distorted form of humanness. When, through letting scripture be the vehicle of God’s judging and healing authority in our communities and individual lives, we really do “experience” God’s affirmation, then we shall know as we are known.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;That means that there are the inherent dangers in viewing, say, the Letters of Paul through the lens of contemporary culture.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;There are massive anachronisms when one makes assumptions about the things going on in this world that weren’t in his world. This requires that we read Paul faithfully and go between these two worlds. As I hinted earlier, the fifth act, in which the Church is called to live and work, is characterized by two things. First, it has firm and fixed foundations, including a definite closing scene which is already sketched in Romans 8, 1 Corinthians 15, Colossians 1 and Revelation 21 and 22.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Second, it has the command, under the spirit, to improvise through the unscripted period between the opening scenes and the closing one. No musician would ever suppose that improvising means playing out of tune or time. On the contrary, it means knowing extremely well whether one is in the implicit structure, and listening intently to the other players so that what we all do together, however, spontaneously, makes sense as a whole. That is the kind of hermeneutic I envisage as I read, and preach from, Paul’s letters today.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Is that why you once described relationship between Jesus and Paul as that of composer and conductor, medical researcher and doctor, and architect and builder?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;The composer writers the music. If the conductor decides to write some on his own account, that would be a way of saying he didn’t want to play that composer’s music, but some of his own instead. His job is to play the music the original composer has written. The doctor takes the results of the research and applies them to the patient. Her job is not to do more research on the topic, or, if she thinks it is, it isn’t because she’s is being loyal to the original researcher but because she is being disloyal. The builder takes the plans drawn up by the architect and builds to that design. It isn’t his task to draw a new building; or, if he does, it’s not because he is filled with the admiration for the original design but because he isn’t.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Got it. On the other extreme, how can stuff like&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;The Gospel of Judas&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;The Da Vinci Code&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;inform the Christian faith?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;What we can see in this current passion for Gnosticism is a hunger for spirituality and purpose. We have to ask&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;why&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;our culture is so hungry for different kinds of spirituality.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Also, the appeal of second century Gnosticism is that people in our culture are eager to find anything to rebuke or replace traditional Christianity. This myth—what I call “the new myth of Christian origins,” according to which Jesus was just an ordinary person who taught a new type of spirituality, that He didn’t die for our sins or rise again—is what’s lurking behind the Jesus Seminar. Many people in our culture don’t like traditional Christianity and are eager to find&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;anything&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;else at all to go with instead.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;You call the Jesus Seminar a “fantasyland.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;They want to liberate the Bible from poor, oppressed fundamentalists. The Seminar has had to reinvent itself after the death of Robert Funk. Its new project is to tackle the origins of Christianity. But most scholars who have written about Jesus—whether they are Jewish, Christian, agnostic or whatever—never signed on to the Jesus Seminar in the first place. Most have held aloof, rightly seeing it as a wacky distraction from serious scholarship. Only a few great minds, like Dom Crossan, Marcus Borg and Walter Wink have stuck with it in the hopes of making something good out of it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Bless their little hearts. Moving on to your book&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;Evil and the Justice of God&lt;/em&gt;, why do you say we’re facing a “new problem of evil?”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;We ignore evil when it doesn’t hit us in the face. Second, we are surprised by evil when it does, so, we then react in immature and dangerous ways as a result. For example, Western politicians knew perfectly well that Al-Qaeda was a force to be reckoned with; but nobody really wanted to take it too seriously until it was too late. But then the astonishing naiveté which decreed that the United States as a whole was a pure, innocent victim, so that the world could be neatly divided into evil people (particularly Arabs) and good people (particularly Americans and Israelis), and that the latter had a responsibility now to punish the former, is a large-scale example of what I’m talking about—just as it is immature and naïve to suggest the mirror image of this view, namely that the Western world is guilty on all respects, and that that protesters and terrorist are therefore completely justified in what they do.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;How do you balance these two extremes?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;We need to acknowledge that there are evil people out there who kill. People sometimes try to engage in “dialogue” as though nothing bad has really happened. But justice without forgiveness is revenge. And forgiveness without justice is appeasement.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Please elaborate on the statement you made in this book that “the Gospels tell the story of how evil in the world reached its height and how God’s long term plan for Israel finally came to its glory?”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;The Gospels tell the story of the political powers of the world reaching their full, arrogant height. All early readers of the Gospels knew perfectly well that the word “gospel” itself—never mind any teaching about “God’s kingdom”—was a direct confrontation with the regime of Caesar, the news of whose rule was referred to in his empire as “good news.” Also, the Gospels tell the story of corruption within Israel itself, as the people who bear the solution have themselves become a central part of the problem. The Gospels then tell the story of the deeper, darker forces which operate at a suprapersonal level, forces for which the language of the demonic, despite all its problems, is still at the least inadequate. And the story the Gospels tell is a story about the downward spiral of evil.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;These five points lead us to say that the story the Gospels are trying to tell us is the story of how the death of Jesus is the point at which evil in all its forms has come rushing together. Here I refer to the&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;Christus Victor&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;theory of the atonement, the belief that on the cross Jesus has won the victory over the powers of evil.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Is that why you write that “the call of the Gospel is for the church to implement the victory of God in the world through suffering love?”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;The cross is not just an example to be followed; it is an achievement to be worked out, put into practice. But it is an example nonetheless, because it is the exemplar—the template, the model for what God now wants to do by his Spirit in the world, through his people. It is the start of the process of redemption, in which suffering and martyrdom are the paradoxical means by which victory is won.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;So where does forgiveness fit in?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Some people believe that when it comes to forgiveness, you just draw a line and forget it even though it’s tough and messy. But this is too simple. In Miroslav Volf’s excellent book&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;Exclusion and Embrace&lt;/em&gt;, his basic argument is this: Whether we are dealing with international relations or one-on-one personal relations, evil must be named and confronted. There must be no sliding around it, no attempt—whether for the sake of an easy life or in search of a quick fix—to present it as if it wasn’t so bad after all. Only when that has been done, when both the evil and the evil doer have been identified as what and who they are—this is what Volf means by “exclusion”—can there be the second move towards the “embrace” of the one who has deeply hurt and wounded us or me.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;If I have named the evil, and done my best to offer genuine forgiveness and reconciliation, then I am free to love the person even if they don’t want to respond.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Any examples of putting this into action?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Two examples here. The first is Desmond Tutu and his work on the Commission on Truth and Reconciliation. I have no hesitation in saying that the fact of such a body even existing, let alone doing the work it has done, is the most extraordinary sign of the power of the Christian gospel in the world in my lifetime. We only have to think for a moment of how unthinkable such a thing would have been 25 years ago, or indeed how unthinkable such a thing would still be in Beirut, Belfast or—God help us—Jerusalem to see that something truly remarkable has taken place for which we should thank God in fear and trembling.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The second example is the killing of the Amish school children. The families of the girls who were killed extended forgiveness to the man and comforted the family. Also, these families insisted that some of the money raised by the Mennonites to support them be given to support the family of the shooter, who killed himself. These countercultural examples show how the Christian community can react.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Finally, how do we reach people for whom&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;church&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;is not part of their vocabulary?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;All human beings are made in God’s image, and it is this image which is the bridgehead to God. People know this in their bones even if they don’t consider themselves to be religious. And let’s not forget that&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;church&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;wasn’t in people’s vocabulary when Christianity first started.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;DOOR:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hmm. This doesn’t really fit with the majority of evangelicals who say that once you become a Christian, “the big issue” has been taken care of. Meaning, of course, that you’re assured a spot up in heaven and nothing else really matters.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;WRIGHT:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;This is unfaithful to the Lord’s Prayer which states, “thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.” The point of following Jesus isn’t simply so that we can be sure of going to a better place than this after we die. Our future beyond death is enormously important, but the nature of the Christian hope is such that it plays back into the present life. We’re called, here and now, to be instruments of God’s new creation, the world-put-to-rights, which has already been launched in Jesus and of which Jesus’ followers are supposed to be not simply beneficiaries but also agents.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 14px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;-&lt;a href="http://link/"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-1724730760439381184?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/1724730760439381184/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/heavy-theological-dude-nt-wright.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1724730760439381184'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1724730760439381184'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/heavy-theological-dude-nt-wright.html' title='&quot;Heavy Theological Dude (N.T. Wright) Mistakenly Talks to Wittenburg Door&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UlP56lLufMU/TwDXMLDZWrI/AAAAAAAAFxw/DA0HRnT5ars/s72-c/wright.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-4526900205977969727</id><published>2012-01-01T13:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-01T13:23:10.294-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality of music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lament'/><title type='text'>"like watching all three Lord of the Rings films in one sitting.."</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZF06sDYCd4w/TwDOl1JcCYI/AAAAAAAAFxk/M9WpRL1gCCo/s1600/rest.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZF06sDYCd4w/TwDOl1JcCYI/AAAAAAAAFxk/M9WpRL1gCCo/s1600/rest.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;Early review/&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006DICWHW/ref=dm_dp_cdp?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=music&amp;amp;qid=1325437285&amp;amp;sr=1-1-catcorr"&gt;preview&lt;/a&gt; of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;new and final&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/page.php?id=108074205893162" href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/David-Crowder/108074205893162" style="background-color: white; color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left; text-decoration: none;"&gt;David Crowder&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;(double) album:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;"epic..like watching all three Lord of the Rings films in one sitting..a Mount Everest of rock worship albums, never to be topped." -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; text-align: left;"&gt;Christianity Today, print edition&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-4526900205977969727?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/4526900205977969727/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/like-watching-all-three-lord-of-rings.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/4526900205977969727'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/4526900205977969727'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/like-watching-all-three-lord-of-rings.html' title='&quot;like watching all three Lord of the Rings films in one sitting..&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZF06sDYCd4w/TwDOl1JcCYI/AAAAAAAAFxk/M9WpRL1gCCo/s72-c/rest.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-8458786406974078329</id><published>2012-01-01T13:14:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-01T13:15:29.387-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='simulacra'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='james k.a. smith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='book reviews'/><title type='text'>real fake wrestling, cultural liturgy.  and the narrative of Jesus</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-orbgl3SldFo/TwDMnAOwatI/AAAAAAAAFxY/pvCTowmi5KU/s1600/wrestling-great-damian-demento.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-orbgl3SldFo/TwDMnAOwatI/AAAAAAAAFxY/pvCTowmi5KU/s1600/wrestling-great-damian-demento.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="yui_3_3_0_1_13254520820915519" style="border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font: inherit; line-height: 19px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-top: 8px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;From &lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-size: 1.7em;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/empire-of-illusion-chris-hedges/1100219403"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle &amp;nbsp;by Chris Hedges&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="yui_3_3_0_1_13254520820915519" style="border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font: inherit; line-height: 19px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-top: 8px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-size: 1.7em;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="yui_3_3_0_1_13254520820915519" style="border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font: inherit; line-height: 19px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-top: 8px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;T&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;he bouts are stylized rituals. They are public expressions of pain and a fervent longing for revenge. The lurid and detailed sagas behind each bout, rather than the wrestling matches themselves, are what drive crowds to a frenzy. These ritualized battles give those packed in the arenas a temporary, heady release from mundane lives. The burden of real problems is transformed into fodder for a high-energy pantomime. And the most potent story tonight, the most potent story across North America, is one of financial ruin, desperation, and enslavement of a frightened and abused working class to a heartless, tyrannical, corporate employer. For most, it is only in the illusion of the ring that they are able to rise above their small stations in life and engage in a heroic battle to fight back.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="yui_3_3_0_1_13254520820915522" style="border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font: inherit; line-height: 19px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-top: 8px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;As the wrestlers appear and strut down the aisle, the crowd, mostly young, working-class males, knows by heart the long list of vendettas and betrayals being carried into the ring. The matches are always acts of retribution for a host of elaborate and fictional wrongs. The narratives of emotional wreckage reflected in the wrestlers’ stage biographies mirror the emotional wreckage of the fans. This is the deep appeal of professional wrestling. It is the appeal of much of popular culture, from Jerry Springer to “reality” television to Oprah Winfrey. The narratives expose the anxiety that we will die and never be recognized or acclaimed, that we will never be wealthy, that we are not among the chosen but remain part of the vast, anonymous masses. The ringside sagas are designed to reassure us. They hold out the hope that we, humble and unsung as these celebrities once were, will eventually be blessed with grace and fortune.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="yui_3_3_0_1_13254520820913561" style="border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font: inherit; line-height: 19px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-top: 8px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;The success of professional wrestling, like most of the entertainment that envelops our culture, lies not in fooling us that these stories are real. Rather, it succeeds because we ask to be fooled. We happily pay for the chance to suspend reality. The wrestlers, like all celebrities, become our vicarious selves. They do what we cannot. They rise up from humble origins into a supernatural world of tyrants, divas, and fierce opponents who are huge and rippling with muscles–mythic in their size and power. They face momentous battles and epic struggles. They win great victories. They garner fame and vanquish their anonymity. And they return to befriend and confer some of their supernatural power on us. It is the stuff of classical myths, including the narrative of Jesus Christ. It is the yearning that life conform to a recognizable pattern and provide ultimate fulfillment before death.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="yui_3_3_0_1_13254520820913560" style="border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font: inherit; line-height: 19px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-top: 8px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;“For the truth is,” wrote José Ortega y Gasset, “that life on the face of it is a chaos in which one finds oneself lost. The individual suspects as much but is terrified to encounter this frightening reality face to face, and so attempts to conceal it by drawing a curtain of fantasy over it, behind which he can make believe that everything is clear.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="yui_3_3_0_1_13254520820915768" style="border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font: inherit; line-height: 19px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-top: 8px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;Clashes in the professional wrestling ring from the 1950s to the 1980s hinged on a different narrative. The battle against the evil of communism and crude, racial stereotypes stoked the crowd. The bouts, which my grandfather religiously watched on Saturday afternoons, were raw, unvarnished expressions of the prejudices of the white working class from which he came. They appealed to nationalism and a dislike and distrust of all who were racially, ethnically, or religiously different. During these matches, some of which I watched as a boy, there was usually some huge hulk of a man, known invariably as “The Russian Bear,” who would say things like “Ve vill bury you.” Nikolai Volkoff, who wrestled during these years under the name Boris Breznikoff, used to sing the Soviet National Anthem and wave the Soviet flag before matches to bait the crowd. He eventually teamed up with an Iranian-born wrestler, Hossein Khosrow Ali Vaziri, known as The Iron Sheik. In the midst of the Iranian hostage crisis, the Iron Sheik bragged in the ring about his devotion and friendship with Ayatollah Khomeini. The Iron Sheik was regularly pitted against a wrestler known as Sergeant Slaughter, All-American G. I. During the first Gulf War; the Iron Sheik reinvented himself, as often happens with wrestlers who shed one persona and name for another, as Colonel Mustafa, an Iraqi who was a close confidant of Saddam Hussein. In wrestling, villains were nearly always foreigners. They were people who wanted to destroy “our way of life.” They hated America. They spoke in strange accents and had swarthy skin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font: inherit; line-height: 19px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-top: 8px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;But that hatred, once directed outward, has turned inward. Wrestling fans, whose numbers have been swelled by new immigrants and are no longer limited to the white working class, began to come in too many colors. The steady loss of manufacturing jobs and decline in social services meant that blue-collar workers–people like my grandparents–could no longer find jobs that provided a living wage, jobs with benefits, jobs that could support a family. The hulks of empty manufacturing centers began to dot the landscape, including the abandoned mills in Maine, where my family lived. The disparity between the elite, the rich, and the rest of the country grew obscenely. The growing class division and hopelessness triggered a mounting rage toward the elite, as well as a sense of powerlessness. Communities began to crumble. Downtown stores went out of business and were boarded up. Domestic abuse and drug and alcohol addiction began to plague working-class neighborhoods and towns.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="yui_3_3_0_1_13254520820916056" style="border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font: inherit; line-height: 19px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-top: 8px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;The story line in professional wrestling evolved to fit the new era. It began to focus on the petty, cruel, psychological dramas and family dysfunction that come with social breakdown. The enemy became figures like Layfield, those who had everything and lorded it over those who did not. The anger unleashed by the crowd became the anger of people who, like the Heartbreak Kid, felt used, shamed, and trapped. It became the anger of class warfare. Figures such as Layfield–who arrives at professional matches in a giant white limousine with Texan “hook ’em” horns on the hood–are created by wrestling promoters to shove these social disparities in the faces of the audience, just as the Iron Sheik mocked the crowd with his hatred of America.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="yui_3_3_0_1_13254520820916667" style="border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font: inherit; line-height: 19px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-top: 8px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: purple;"&gt;Wrestlers work in “stables,” or groups. These groups, all of which have managers, are at war with the other groups. This motif, too, is new. It represents a society that has less and less national cohesion, a society that has broken down into warlike and antagonistic tribes. The stables cheat, lie, steal one another’s women, and ignore all rules in the desperate scramble to win. Winning is all that matters. Morality is irrelevant. These wrestling clans have their own logos, uniforms, slogans, theme songs, cheerleaders, and other badges of communal identity. They do not, however, stay consistent in their “good guy” or “bad guy” status. A clan, like an individual wrestler, can be good one week and evil the next. All that matters is their own advancement. Week after week, they act out scenarios that are psychological windows into what has happened to our culture.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="yui_3_3_0_1_13254520820916667" style="border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; border-left-style: none; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-style: none; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: 0px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font: inherit; line-height: 19px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-top: 8px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; text-decoration: none;"&gt;-&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="background-color: white; font-size: 1.7em;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/empire-of-illusion-chris-hedges/1100219403"&gt;Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle &amp;nbsp;by Chris Hedge&lt;/a&gt;s, pp. 5-8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div 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target="_blank"&gt;From Brazos:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;"Brazos author Brian Walsh was recently interviewed on &lt;i&gt;The Drew Marshall Show&lt;/i&gt; concerning his recent book &lt;i&gt;Kicking at the Darkness: Bruce Cockburn and the Christian Imagination&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can listen to the full (26 min) interview&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.thebrazosblog.com/tag/brian-walsh/"&gt;here"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="wpaudio-container" style="border: 0px none; display: inline-block; font-family: Sans-serif; line-height: 1; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"&gt;--&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="wpaudio-container" style="border: 0px none; display: inline-block; font-family: Sans-serif; line-height: 1; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"&gt;More Cockburn &lt;a 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type='html'>See&lt;a href="http://garydavidstratton.com/2011/12/13/funnyman-tim-allen-serious-about-god/"&gt; "Funnyman Tim Allen: Serious About God&lt;/a&gt;"...and video below:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="0" src="http://c.gigcount.com/wildfire/IMP/CXNID=2000002.11NXC/bT*xJmx*PTEzMjUxNDY3Mzk4MTQmcHQ9MTMyNTE*Njc*NDkzNiZwPSZkPSZnPTImbz*5NWQ5ZmM5NWQzMWI*MzU3YTc3NWE4NGI3/YTg*NzBjNiZvZj*w.gif" style="height: 0px; visibility: hidden; width: 0px;" width="0" /&gt;&lt;object allowfullscreen="true" allownetworking="all" allowscriptaccess="always" data="http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/index.php/kwidget/wid/0_ybaqy08k/uiconf_id/5590821" height="221" id="kaltura_player_1325146749" name="kaltura_player_1325146749" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="392"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowNetworking" value="all" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#000000" /&gt;&lt;param name="movie" 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On the north shore of Long Island it is a pretty stony  proposition.  The mills of the gods grind coarsely here; but, in  exchange for busied feet and a sore coccyx, they provide gravel for the  foundation of the arts.  Every year we hunt for perfect stones: ovals,  spheroids, lozenges, eggs.  By the end of the summer there are pebbles  all over the house.  They have no apparent use other than the delight  that they provide to man, but that is the whole point of the collection.   The very act of hunting them is an introduction to the oblation of  things.  Look at this one!  Do you think it will split evenly enough for  arrowheads?  What color is that one when it's wet?  Lick it and see.   Daddy wants a big flat round one to hold the sauerkraut under the brine.   Will this one do?  We walk down the beach lifting stones into our  history: we are collectors, ingatherers of being.  Man is the lover of  textures, colors and shapes – the only creature in the whole world who  knows a good pickling stone when he sees one.  The arts go way beyond  that; but that is where they begin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The child who runs the satin  binding of his blanket between this fingers, the boy who carefully oils  his collection of ball bearings so they will not rust, the woman who  loves to handle thick braids, the man who opens his pocket-knife just to  hear the satisfying click with which it closes – all these are priestly  builders.  It is in his simplest oblations that man is at his  historical best.  When he rises higher, he makes more mistakes – he  diagrams and spiritualizes what should have been loved and offered as a  thing; but at these low levels he is a success.  The world has seen few  badly offered blanket bindings, few profaned ball bearings.  As long as  man can hunt stones, he will know that the fire of his priesthood has  not gone out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the oblation of things goes far beyond such  simplicities.  It is in the arts and the crafts that man most displays  his priestliness and historicity. ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a common error to  suppose that the artist does what he does for himself – that he is a  peculiar being who loves certain things in a way not open to others.  It  is also common to dismiss the craftsman as a fellow who does things for  money.  To some degree, of course, that is all true.  Artists are  usually a little odd; the laborer commonly, and legitimately, looks  forward to his hire.  But after that it falls short.  For each is  engaged in an offering of things not simply for his own benefit, but for  the sake of the things themselves – and for the sake of other men.  The  painter paints because he loves the way things look and wants to offer  his sight of them to others.  The poet speaks because he loves words and  longs for them to be heard as he hears them.  And the cabinetmaker  fashions and the joiner joins, and the chef cooks and the vintner toils  because they love the conjunctions of things and will them to be moved  into the weaving of the web.  All arts come from having open eyes; and  all arts are performing arts.  Even the solitary artist in the cave  draws to be seen, offers up what he looks at as a priest for other men.   It is only in bad drawing, bad writing and bad woodwork that motives  other than priestly ones become primary.  It is when man stops loving  what he does and stops caring whether others see that he becomes guilty  of artistry that is not art and of craftsmanship that is only shoddy.  ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If speech is the crowning gift of man, then the arts of  language probably qualify as the most nearly universal.  Not all men can  draw, many men cannot sing, and the world is full of cooks who ought to  be allowed to rise no higher than the scullery; but all men speak, and  practically no one is immune to the delights of rhyme and reason.  The  child, as soon as he learns words, plays with words.  The teen-ager,  with his stock of current clichés and his mercurial pattern of jargon,  is a poet.  He may recite only commercial slogans and comparable  idiocies; but he recites them, at least partly, because he loves the way  the words rattle.  And somewhere along the line he will, unless he is  starved to death, come to love some very grand rattles indeed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I  remember the first time I read Shakespeare's sonnets.  "Lillies that  fester smell far worse than weeds" stuck in my head for weeks – not so  much for its meaning as for its marvellous wordiness.  The city of  speech is old and new, and rich beyond counting. ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That only a  few have the craft to forge such words takes nothing off the edge of the  marvel by which man can sense the priestliness of their oblation  And  it is not only the grand and the gorgeous that qualify.  ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Speech  is no mere tool of communication; it is a joy in itself. ... Speech  should indeed inform, as food should indeed nourish, but what sane man  will let either subject go at that?  ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Man's failure in music  is like his failure in all the arts – a failure to make them really  priestly, a penchant for non-historical and irrelevant forms.  Far too  much of the music we now have is only heard, not played or sung.  It  makes no demands, does not ask to be lifted; it just hangs around.  We  have canned music, background music, and music to do everything but  listen to music by.  But music cannot be only entertainment any more  than speech can be only communication.  We aim too low.  Both are major  oblations, and they will settle for nothing less.  Neither can be merely  used: they must be played.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank God for wine.  Without it we  would have almost no singing at all.  Practically the only place where  men now sing when they are cold sober is in church; and, to tell the  truth, it sounds like it.  As a professional religionist, I wish I could  make a more glowing report; but, by and large, it is wretched.  It is a  triumph of use, not play.  And for every man in church who sings, there  are five who stand aloof from the whole business as if it were faintly  disreputable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why?  Because they are embarrassed by the sound of  their own voices: they are ashamed of their priesthood.  The city of  music, which fairly cries for lifting into their history, is firmly and  permanently locked out.  I think that secretly, in their heart of  hearts, perhaps, they envy people who play.  But they do not show it  often.  If only they would.  It isn't a matter of working themselves  into miniature Isaac Sterns; the harmonica will do if it comes to that –  or even tenth-rate four-part harmony.  They underestimate the power of  the arts.  A man can practice for weeks on the strength of one-chord  progression.  Even the smallest oblation will lift the priest as he  makes it; even a little attention to what is really there will be a  historical triumph.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;from &lt;u&gt;An Offering Of Uncles: The Priesthood of Adam and The Shape of the World&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;by Robert Farrar Capon, HT&lt;a href="http://oblations.blogspot.com/2006/11/robert-farrar-capon-oblation-of-things.html"&gt; Ron&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-8384873447280647126?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/8384873447280647126/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/oblation-of-things.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/8384873447280647126'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/8384873447280647126'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/oblation-of-things.html' title='&quot;The Oblation of Things&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-701150446412045141</id><published>2011-12-26T12:05:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-26T12:05:06.324-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TNIV'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='women in leadership'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sapir-whorf'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='translation'/><title type='text'>"neither grammar nor style are politically neutral"</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;I love fellowdreamer's&amp;nbsp; take on "TNIV and Gender&amp;nbsp;Trouble,"&amp;nbsp; posted a couple years ago during the TNIV (click "TNIV" at bottom of this post for more info) craziness.&amp;nbsp; Great example of how unexpected or "unrelated"..and especially "secular" (gasp!)&amp;nbsp; sources can really help us see truth.&amp;nbsp; I also appreciate the implications for Sapir-Whorf (click that title below):&amp;nbsp; Here he is:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-H_qHKIRD1C0/TvjTAafacCI/AAAAAAAAFw4/38_TWb2fTRk/s1600/esquire.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-H_qHKIRD1C0/TvjTAafacCI/AAAAAAAAFw4/38_TWb2fTRk/s1600/esquire.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Recently, &lt;a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2009/09/breaking_transl.html"&gt;Christianity  Today announced that the TNIV translation (an updated NIV) was being  redone to fix some of the “mistakes” that the editing and translating  board had perceived as dangerous and in need of repair.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the biggest reasons given was the original TNIV’s gender  inclusive approach that had altered the grammar of many passages to  include sisters, daughters and other (female) left out people groups. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Clearly, there is a great theological discussion to be had on  personhood, equality, gender of God, etc., but my focus here is on the  grammatical argument. The idea that these changes have made reading  hard, obtuse and that the structure is now “wrong” according to the  rules of language fails to truly interact with the reality of our  gendered experience.  &lt;br /&gt;I’ve been reading Judith Butler’s Gender Trouble recently. An  excellent little work that has nothing to do with biblical translation,  but has a very powerful passage in the forward about language, grammar  and gender. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;She says, “moreover, neither grammar nor style are politically  neutral… there is nothing radical about common sense. It would be a  mistake to think that received grammar is the best vehicle for  expressing radical views, given the constraints that grammar imposes  upon thought, indeed, upon the thinkable itself” (xix). Her point is  clear; if a thought, idea or text is radical it might, indeed must, mess  with our common sense and break the rules. It seems that there are few  Christians who would argue the radical nature of their precious  Scriptures, so why neuter the message by constraining it to the rules of  the English language, which is so clearly limited? &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Butler continues, “formulations that twist grammar or that implicitly  call into question the subject-verb requirements of propositional sense  are clearly irritating for some. They produce more work for their  readers, and sometimes their readers are offended by such demands. Are  those who are offended making a legitimate request for “plain speaking”  or does their complaint emerge from a consumer expectation of  intellectual life?” (italics mine). To understand the point in our  present circumstance: are those offended by the apparent literary heresy  of the grammatical formulations of equality found in the TNIV really  concerned with easy reading or are their interests in something much  more perverse, the preservation of sexist orders and attitudes? Using  gender inclusive language should be a given, should it not? Personally, I  see women everywhere I go and I refer to them as such, not as brothers  and fathers and men. Let me remind you, we are not talking about  pronouns for God, but for the community of believers.....&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;continued, &lt;a href="http://guardianoftheabyss.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/tniv-and-gender-trouble/"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-701150446412045141?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/701150446412045141/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/neither-grammar-nor-style-are.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/701150446412045141'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' 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things about Christmas.</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;Annie Dillard, "Feast Days":&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me mention&lt;br /&gt;one or two things about Christmas.&lt;br /&gt;Of course you've all heard&lt;br /&gt;that the animals talk&lt;br /&gt;at midnight:a particular elk, for instance,&lt;br /&gt;kneeling at night to drink, leaning tall to pull leaves&lt;br /&gt;with his soft lips, says, alleluia.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That the soil and fresh water lakes&lt;br /&gt;also rejoice,&lt;br /&gt;as do products&lt;br /&gt;such as sweaters&lt;br /&gt;(nor are plastics excluded from grace),&lt;br /&gt;is less well known.&lt;br /&gt;Further:the reason for some silly looking fishes,&lt;br /&gt;for the bizarre mating&lt;br /&gt;of certain adult insects,&lt;br /&gt;or the sprouting, say&lt;br /&gt;in a snow tire&lt;br /&gt;of a Rocky Mountain grass,&lt;br /&gt;is that the universal&lt;br /&gt;loves the particular,&lt;br /&gt;that freedom loves to live&lt;br /&gt;and live fleshed full,&lt;br /&gt;intricate,&lt;br /&gt;and in detail.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God empties himself&lt;br /&gt;into the earth like a cloud.&lt;br /&gt;God takes the substance, contours&lt;br /&gt;of a man, and keeps them,&lt;br /&gt;dying, rising, walking,&lt;br /&gt;and still walking wherever there is motion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;from &lt;u&gt;Tickets For A Prayer Wheel&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;by Annie Dillard&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-6629301693578357424?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/6629301693578357424/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/one-or-two-things-about-christmas.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' 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type='text'>missional church in two minutes</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/arxfLK_sd68" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-7458069475791488391?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/7458069475791488391/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/missional-church-in-two-minutes.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7458069475791488391'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7458069475791488391'/><link 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forwards and understood backwards":&lt;br /&gt;:&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="225" mozallowfullscreen="" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/21315457?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0" webkitallowfullscreen="" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/21315457"&gt;Retroactive Justification&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/peterrollins"&gt;Peter Rollins&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-4197965176348038079?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/4197965176348038079/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/retroactive-justification.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/4197965176348038079'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/4197965176348038079'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/retroactive-justification.html' title='Retroactive Justification'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-6514821743652895358</id><published>2011-12-21T18:24:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-21T18:33:34.733-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading the Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='centered sets'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='parables'/><title type='text'>Good Samaritan misunderstood</title><content type='html'>We so often&amp;nbsp; miss &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/06/parables-and-misundertaking.html"&gt;( see "Parables and Misundertaking")&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the point and punch of parables..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pqvk-L71pIM/TvKUPO6AnAI/AAAAAAAAFws/NWIbhewMwls/s1600/calvin-subvert.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pqvk-L71pIM/TvKUPO6AnAI/AAAAAAAAFws/NWIbhewMwls/s1600/calvin-subvert.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Good article in the new Biblical Archaeology by Amy-Jill Levine (emphasis mine):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the parable, the priest and Levite signal not a concern for  ritual purity; rather, in good storytelling fashion, these first two  figures anticipate the third: the hero. Jews in the first century (and  today) typically are either priests or Levites or Israelites. Thus the  expected third figure, the hero, would be an Israelite. The parable  shocks us when the third figure is not an Israelite, but a Samaritan.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But numerous interpreters, missing the full import of the shock,  describe the Samaritan as the outcast. This approach, while prompting  compelling sermons, is the fourth anachronism. &lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Samaritans were not  outcasts at the time of Jesus; they were enemies.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In the chapter before the parable (&lt;a class="bibleref" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=21118726"&gt;Luke 9:51–56&lt;/a&gt;)  Luke depicts Samaritans as refusing Jesus hospitality; the apostles  James and John suggest retaliation: “Lord, do you want us to command  fire to come down from heaven and consume them?” (&lt;a class="bibleref" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=21118726"&gt;Luke 9:54&lt;/a&gt;). &lt;a class="bibleref" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=21118726"&gt;John 4:9&lt;/a&gt;  states, “Jews do not share things in common with Samaritans.” The  Jewish historian Josephus reports that during the governorship of  Cumanus, Samaritans killed “a great many” Galilean pilgrims traveling to  Jerusalem (&lt;i&gt;Antiquities&lt;/i&gt; 20.118–136). The first-century Jewish  person hearing this parable might well think: There is no such thing as a  “good Samaritan.” But unless that acknowledgment is made, and help from  the Samaritan is accepted, the person in the ditch will die.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The parable offers another vision, a vision of life rather than death. It evokes &lt;a class="bibleref" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=21118726"&gt;2 Chronicles 28&lt;/a&gt;,  which recounts how the prophet Oded convinced the Samaritans to aid  their Judean captives. It insists that enemies can prove to be  neighbors, that compassion has no boundaries, and that judging people on  the basis of their religion or ethnicity will leave us dying in a  ditch.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.bib-arch.org/bar/article.asp?PubID=BSBA&amp;amp;Volume=38&amp;amp;Issue=01&amp;amp;ArticleID=13&amp;amp;Page=0&amp;amp;UserID=0&amp;amp;"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See also this article: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 class="r"&gt;&lt;a class="l vst" href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;esrc=s&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=1&amp;amp;ved=0CCMQFjAA&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fchqdaily.com%2F2011%2F08%2F17%2Flevine-good-samaritan-parable-teaches-compassion-for-the-enemy%2F&amp;amp;ei=hY7yTp_vHOqTiAKtwbS4BA&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNEpHn7ILbuC5N2Id7_2rH9q-2GuZw&amp;amp;sig2=7dKfgsEJOHHGaO4zgKsx8g"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Levine&lt;/i&gt;: &lt;i&gt;Good Samaritan&lt;/i&gt; parable teaches compassion for the enemy&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 class="r"&gt;And this video version: &lt;/h3&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="260" scrolling="no" src="http://fora.tv/embed?id=14115&amp;amp;type=c" webkitallowfullscreen="" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://fora.tv/v/c14115"&gt;Amy-Jill Levine: Dangers on the Road to Jericho&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://fora.tv/partner/Chautauqua_Institution"&gt; Chautauqua Institution&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://fora.tv/"&gt;FORA.tv&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;----&lt;br /&gt;See a great, hilarious&amp;nbsp; section by Capon:\&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="padding-left: 30px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The defining character – the one to  whom the other three respond by being non-neighbour or neighbour – is  the man who fell among thieves. The actual Christ-figure in the story,  therefore, is yet another loser, yet another down-and-outer who, by just  lying there in his lostness and proximity to death, is in fact the  closest thing to Jesus in the parable.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;That runs counter, of course, to the  better part of two thousand years’ worth of interpretation, but I shall  insist on it. This parable, like so many of Jesus’ most telling ones,  has been egregiously misnamed. It is not primarily about the Samaritan  but about the man on the ground. This means, incidentally, that Good  Samaritan Hospitals have been likewise misnamed. It is the suffering,  dying patients in such institutions who look most like Jesus in his  redeeming work, not the doctors with their authoritarian stethoscopes  around their necks. Accordingly, it would have been much less misleading  to have named them Man-Who-Fell-Among-Thieves Hospitals...{as if the doctors would stand for that}&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: medium;"&gt; (p. 210ff, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=o7QBcehnghcC&amp;amp;pg=PA212&amp;amp;lpg=PA212&amp;amp;dq=robert+farrar+capon+good+samaritan+hospital++%22is+the+suffering,+dying+patients+in+such+institutions+who+look+most+like+Jesus+in%22&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=15JO4DCYbM&amp;amp;sig=DKtMzkvcMaSbbSSLILzuEt40BNA&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=wpHyTtLqLKOqiAL0-dibDg&amp;amp;ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA"&gt;Kingdom, grace, judgment: paradox, outrage, and vindication &lt;i&gt;in the&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; parables of Jesus)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---&lt;br /&gt;P.S&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2010/11/animated-parables-gaga-samaritan.html"&gt;Animated Parables: Gaga Samaritan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-6514821743652895358?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/6514821743652895358/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/good-samaritan-misunderstood.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6514821743652895358'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6514821743652895358'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/good-samaritan-misunderstood.html' title='Good Samaritan misunderstood'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pqvk-L71pIM/TvKUPO6AnAI/AAAAAAAAFws/NWIbhewMwls/s72-c/calvin-subvert.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-3115417770682310404</id><published>2011-12-21T12:40:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-21T12:41:09.846-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rob bell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='role of the pastor'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='physics'/><title type='text'>Rob Bell's farewell sermon at Mars Hill</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--qK9dksPQVU/TvJEVU4unZI/AAAAAAAAFwg/sQvJNaDNOXQ/s1600/audio_icon.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--qK9dksPQVU/TvJEVU4unZI/AAAAAAAAFwg/sQvJNaDNOXQ/s200/audio_icon.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Of course, it ends with a little quantum entanglement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read or download &lt;a href="http://sojo.net/blogs/2011/12/19/rob-bells-parting-epistle-mars-hill-grace-peace?page=show"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-3115417770682310404?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/3115417770682310404/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/rob-bells-farewell-sermon-at-mars-hill.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3115417770682310404'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3115417770682310404'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/rob-bells-farewell-sermon-at-mars-hill.html' title='Rob Bell&apos;s farewell sermon at Mars Hill'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--qK9dksPQVU/TvJEVU4unZI/AAAAAAAAFwg/sQvJNaDNOXQ/s72-c/audio_icon.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-7727931074594756374</id><published>2011-12-21T12:24:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-21T12:24:17.410-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading the Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='role of the pastor'/><title type='text'>shepherd/pastor  rethought:    ferocity,    royalty,  romance</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Gtmm9iChqnU/TvJATC-v-9I/AAAAAAAAFwY/gKN8wRUxs8o/s1600/shocking-news.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Gtmm9iChqnU/TvJATC-v-9I/AAAAAAAAFwY/gKN8wRUxs8o/s320/shocking-news.jpg" width="214" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Joel Hoffman&lt;a href="http://goddidntsaythat.com/2011/10/21/the-lord-isnt-the-shepherd-you-think-or-dont-mess-with-the-shepherds/#more-3051"&gt; suggests t&lt;/a&gt;hat not only is "The Lord is my &lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;shepherd"&lt;/span&gt; not&amp;nbsp; the best translation of&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;o’eh,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;but that the key biblical images of shepherd are:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ferocity,&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt; royalty,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;romance&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Implications for pastors?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-7727931074594756374?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/7727931074594756374/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/shepherdpastor-rethought-ferocity.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7727931074594756374'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7727931074594756374'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/shepherdpastor-rethought-ferocity.html' title='shepherd/pastor  rethought:    ferocity,    royalty,  romance'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Gtmm9iChqnU/TvJATC-v-9I/AAAAAAAAFwY/gKN8wRUxs8o/s72-c/shocking-news.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-6091927632961909458</id><published>2011-12-21T02:11:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-21T02:11:54.024-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='communitas'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading the Bible'/><title type='text'>community hermeneutic</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote&gt;"The meaning of Scripture is enacted in the Christian  community, and only those who participate in the enactment can  understand the text. Consequently, the transformation of the community  is not the presupposition but also the result and proof of true  interpretation. Where God’s spirit is at work, the community (“we all”)  is being transformed into the image of Christ and liberated to see, when  they read Scripture, that the old covenant prefigured precisely this  transformation." &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;-&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;Richard Hays, &lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Echoes of Scripture in the Letters of Paul,&lt;/u&gt; p. &lt;/em&gt;152)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-6091927632961909458?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/6091927632961909458/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/community-hermeneutic.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6091927632961909458'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6091927632961909458'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/community-hermeneutic.html' title='community hermeneutic'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-6053353573000741635</id><published>2011-12-21T01:31:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-21T01:31:44.145-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='centered sets'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='apocalyptic'/><title type='text'>centered set on the move..or a river?</title><content type='html'>We've noted centered sets with moving centers &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/01/centered-sets-with-moving-center.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2010/12/centered-sets-and-moving-center-part2_04.html"&gt; here, &lt;/a&gt;but what if the whole set moves?:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;...I think that the centered set idea is closer to how things work in  practice, but still wonder if the idea of the “center” in the “centered  set” is too static. Is there &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt; core of doctrines or beliefs  we are moving toward or away from? Perhaps. Perhaps we could call it  something like “Christianity,” but what would we put there? &lt;br /&gt;I prefer a metaphor in which the whole continues to move. For a long  time I used the metaphor of rays or trajectories. If two rays start off  half a degree separate from each other (i.e., there is some theological  diversity from the very beginning in Christianity) then if they continue  on their trajectories they will get farther and farther apart. The  result? An increasingly large space between the vectors that constitutes  Christianity within the tradition; i.e., an increasingly theologically  and culturally diverse Christianity that all can lay claim to orthodoxy.&lt;br /&gt;If that doesn’t work for you, perhaps the metaphor of a river.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="wp-caption aligncenter" id="attachment_3845" style="width: 410px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/view_photog.php?photogid=732"&gt;&lt;img alt="" class="size-full wp-image-3845" height="266" src="http://www.jrdkirk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/river.jpg" title="river" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="wp-caption-text"&gt;Image: prozac1 / FreeDigitalPhotos.net&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This one I stole from Joel Green. The idea is that a river flows between  banks. It is a dynamic thing. It probably gets wider and wider the  farther downstream it goes. It is always moving toward its end. Moving  together. It’s that sense of unified motion I like: even as it gets wider, the  whole is still in motion in the same direction–toward the eschaton.&lt;br /&gt;Or perhaps there’s a little of all of this. Perhaps there is a  “center,” and that would be the Christ in whom we all live, and this  Christ is not standing still or defined by or bounded by the creeds of  the church, but continuing to march through history, gaining followers,  and manifesting all the while an ever richer embodiment of the diversity  of God’s creation.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;- &lt;a href="http://www.jrdkirk.com/2011/08/09/bounded-centered-christ/"&gt;J. R. Daniel Kirk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-6053353573000741635?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/6053353573000741635/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/centered-set-on-moveor-river.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6053353573000741635'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6053353573000741635'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/centered-set-on-moveor-river.html' title='centered set on the move..or a river?'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-450724576932096642</id><published>2011-12-21T00:53:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-21T00:53:33.642-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ecclesiology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='centered sets'/><title type='text'>Centripetal/Centrifugal church</title><content type='html'>Inspired by set theory...An article&amp;nbsp; (&lt;a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/08/11/institutional-v-missional-church-centrifugal-centripetal/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) and art&amp;nbsp; (below) from "122 Witnesses": on&amp;nbsp; Centripetal/Centrifugal church&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-en118ro28rw/TvGbkMxwDxI/AAAAAAAAFwA/iPR9bJpXeXo/s1600/centrif.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-en118ro28rw/TvGbkMxwDxI/AAAAAAAAFwA/iPR9bJpXeXo/s320/centrif.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-clvpHKJieZA/TvGbkgPOr8I/AAAAAAAAFwI/XP3lGx6w5Ys/s1600/centrp.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-clvpHKJieZA/TvGbkgPOr8I/AAAAAAAAFwI/XP3lGx6w5Ys/s320/centrp.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;see also:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 class="r"&gt;&lt;a class="l" href="http://www.directionjournal.org/article/?877"&gt;Direction: Moving from &lt;em&gt;Centrifugal&lt;/em&gt; to &lt;em&gt;Centripetal&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Direction Journal)&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 class="r"&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.globalconnectionupci.com/missionary/Are%20you%20Centripetal,%20Centrifugal,%20or%20Both.pdf"&gt;Are you &lt;em&gt;Centripetal&lt;/em&gt;, Centrifugal, or BOTH?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt;&lt;a href="http://johnwmorehead.blogspot.com/2006/01/centripetal-or-centrifugal-radio.html"&gt;Centripetal or Centrifugal?: Radio Control Cars, Israel &amp;amp; the Church&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt; &lt;/h3&gt;&lt;a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IndianOrthodox/message/23321"&gt;CENTRIFUGAL AND CENTRIPETAL CHURCHES &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 class="r"&gt;&lt;a class="l" href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;esrc=s&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=4&amp;amp;ved=0CDoQFjAD&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markbatterson.com%2Funcategorized%2Fcentripetal-churches%2F&amp;amp;ei=N5vxTqGtGaeIiALSnpysDg&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNGpjMYnO56VmdW3-3Qkz6M_MBMVXg&amp;amp;sig2=nuRfxYxB1XZZ0-7kZQJTTA"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Centripetal Churches&lt;/em&gt; | Mark Batterson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-450724576932096642?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/450724576932096642/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/centripetalcentrifugal-church.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/450724576932096642'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/450724576932096642'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/centripetalcentrifugal-church.html' title='Centripetal/Centrifugal church'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-en118ro28rw/TvGbkMxwDxI/AAAAAAAAFwA/iPR9bJpXeXo/s72-c/centrif.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-1772131244677592023</id><published>2011-12-19T21:48:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-19T21:48:59.933-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='xxx church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sexuality'/><title type='text'>Pastor Craig Gross of XXX Church Interviewed at Exxxotica Porn Show</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/G3yfO_wM2H0" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-1772131244677592023?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/1772131244677592023/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/pastor-craig-gross-of-xxx-church.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1772131244677592023'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1772131244677592023'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/pastor-craig-gross-of-xxx-church.html' title='Pastor Craig Gross of XXX Church Interviewed at Exxxotica Porn Show'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/G3yfO_wM2H0/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-1428162415936046741</id><published>2011-12-19T21:37:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-19T21:37:21.546-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='n.t. wright'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading the Bible'/><title type='text'>":How I read the Bible"-N.T. 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text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YIRAbPA58ao/Tu-x_YCx7mI/AAAAAAAAFt4/VlSxTN4Zvhs/s1600/text_me_tshirt-p235930062638800170c69p_210.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YIRAbPA58ao/Tu-x_YCx7mI/AAAAAAAAFt4/VlSxTN4Zvhs/s1600/text_me_tshirt-p235930062638800170c69p_210.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Because several of the classes I teach have to do with how to read and interpret texts (particularly biblical texts) , contexts, and intertextuality...I actually encourage students to send me text messages in class.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They often look at me as if I am kidding, even afraid I will confiscate their phone if they do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...Or worse! Check out this shocking video (HT &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/DarkMurmillo"&gt;Michael)&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;nbsp; revealing one professor's policy on texting :in class:&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/NZ5Zahh9akI" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Here's one teacher who welcomes texting in class: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6kDNKa3a5AM" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And how about church?&amp;nbsp; Our friend and local pastor Kevin Foster responds to text message questions and comments&lt;a href="http://fresnobee.mycapture.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=34024171&amp;amp;event=1165015&amp;amp;CategoryID=66325"&gt; as part of his sermon&lt;/a&gt;..&amp;nbsp; Kevin is the one who introduced me to Earl Creps and his quote, &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2006/12/review-off-road-disciplines.html"&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;If they are &lt;i&gt;not texting&lt;/i&gt;, they are &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; listening.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;Compare that to one church's policy on cell phones (video below) Hell is pretty strict, huh? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/D2_c81Nnsc0" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.fresno.edu/faculty/greg-camp"&gt;FPU professor&amp;nbsp; (and Textpert) Greg Camp&lt;/a&gt; introduced me to the brilliant idea of having students text me in class.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;I ask them to send me a random text message (anything) or to forward&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-A4a5tchsvLM/Tu-1VkjtkPI/AAAAAAAAFuA/OC-L8cEE13c/s1600/notext.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-A4a5tchsvLM/Tu-1VkjtkPI/AAAAAAAAFuA/OC-L8cEE13c/s320/notext.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt; me a text message from their inbox.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; These become our curriculum for the next few minutes as we interpret them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;This opens great discussion..sometimes even about topics discussed in &lt;i&gt;" &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=2LES8XbNJkUC&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;dq=does+this+text+meaning&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=5bDvToCmNoWyiQLM8fyBBA&amp;amp;ved=0CDsQ6AEwAA" title="Is There a Meaning in This Text?: The Bible, the Reader, and the Morality of Literary Knowledge"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;i&gt;Is&lt;/i&gt; There a &lt;i&gt;Meaning&lt;/i&gt; in This &lt;i&gt;Text&lt;/i&gt;?: The Bible, the Reader, and the Morality of Literary Knowledge."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And very often I get a text that says, "The university president just emailed, notifying that all classes get out early today."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;I usually tell the "butt cheeks" story (inspired by Pastor John Christie's use of that text) in classes where students text, to illustrate context.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;Suffice to say that's a different text than "but, cheeks."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;Suffice to say the whole idea of texting in class has proven to be a fruitful means of discussing the only thing we ever engage in, and the only job we have:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;interpreting text messages.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;Huh?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;Increasingly, the definition of text is becoming:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;"any message, in any medium, intended to communicate anything" &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;Movies are texts; conversations at St. Arbuck's are texts. etc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;So the primary discipline/skill/art we should cultivate is that of sending and interpreting text messages.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;All of life is a text message.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;Of course, when dealing with The Text (Scripture), how much more...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;Text, subtext, and context is everything.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;Text me..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;Related, see my popular posts on "signs" (even though that is another class, namely "semiotics")...they, too, are text message and need to be interpreted.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cKmhuyKVGFM/Tu-3Uq3gJ_I/AAAAAAAAFvY/FcGIIVELONY/s1600/babysign.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="300" 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href="http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150306889633245.377592.669508244&amp;amp;type=3"&gt;album 2 &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7VuSd_tIOQw/Tu-3q1L4fUI/AAAAAAAAFv4/TJd7tdM9A7Y/s1600/babysignnn.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="236" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7VuSd_tIOQw/Tu-3q1L4fUI/AAAAAAAAFv4/TJd7tdM9A7Y/s320/babysignnn.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="st"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-8347397656100282910?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' 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href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EnTlLpNYYfI/TNh447jbCTI/AAAAAAAAEfY/vySJGnG2K-M/s1600/realitycheck.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="311" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EnTlLpNYYfI/TNh447jbCTI/AAAAAAAAEfY/vySJGnG2K-M/s320/realitycheck.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;"There are no experts in the company of Jesus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; We are all beginners,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; necessarily followers,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif; font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;because we don’t know where we are going.&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Eugene Peterson, &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=ujmM2udgESgC&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;dq=eugene+peterson+the+way&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=uabvTsqBHYr8iQKkw9XtAw&amp;amp;ved=0CD8QuwUwAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=where%20we%20are%20going&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;The Jesus Way, p. 12&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note: if that last sentence doesn't ring true..consider the writer of Hebrews: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 class="r"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a class="l" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2008/07/kowing-where-youre-going-is-overrrated.html"&gt;Knowing where you're going is overrrated&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 class="r"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a class="l" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/10/i-have-no-idea-where-i-am-going.html"&gt;" I have no idea &lt;em&gt;where I am going&lt;/em&gt;"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-9064387595396730720?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/9064387595396730720/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/we-dont-know-where-we-are-going.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/9064387595396730720'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/9064387595396730720'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' 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type='text'>Alan Jacobs: 'The Pleasures of Reading in an Age of Distraction'</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="300" mozallowfullscreen="" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/25156793?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0" webkitallowfullscreen="" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/25156793"&gt;Alan Jacobs discusses 'The Pleasures of Reading in an Age of Distraction'&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/user7384344"&gt;The New Atlantis&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-7456831711882664961?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/7456831711882664961/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' 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God. 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text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p6DBNDj5rGU/TuvHvKeSpOI/AAAAAAAAFto/LvPhdtMNTI0/s1600/junia.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_34nxmU7eG0/TuvJqEssBfI/AAAAAAAAFtw/zI0Kez0OWZY/s1600/ncm+room.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_34nxmU7eG0/TuvJqEssBfI/AAAAAAAAFtw/zI0Kez0OWZY/s640/ncm+room.jpg" width="480" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Let me come out of the closet&amp;nbsp; to recommend Scot McKnight's E-book, &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006H4PFZ8/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=musionscieand-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=B006H4PFZ8"&gt;Junia is Not Alone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; If you don't have a Kindle, Amazon offers a &lt;a href="https://read.amazon.com/"&gt;free Kindle reader..&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p6DBNDj5rGU/TuvHvKeSpOI/AAAAAAAAFto/LvPhdtMNTI0/s1600/junia.jpg" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p6DBNDj5rGU/TuvHvKeSpOI/AAAAAAAAFto/LvPhdtMNTI0/s400/junia.jpg" width="248" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I wonder why an E Book?&amp;nbsp; Too controversial for Christian bookstores?&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Todd Littleton says:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Scot takes readers on a tour of how Junia has been treated in  translation. Over the years the politics of interpretation created an  occasion for Junia to have a sex-change. And then, and how the new  Junias was killed off in the process of restoring Junia to her place in  Scripture. If you would like an introduction into E.J. Epp’s, &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Junia-Apostle-Eldon-Jay-Epp/dp/B002G9U22Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1323124851&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Junia: The First Woman Apostle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, then Junia Is Not Alone is a good place to start.,,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Oh, and if this is not enough to prompt you to read&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt; Scot’s new book, &lt;a href="http://kinnon.tv/2011/12/scot-mcknights-junia-is-not-alone.html"&gt;Bill Kinnon said you should!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Related:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2008/02/i-need-some-token-women.html"&gt;I need some token women&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_34nxmU7eG0/TuvJqEssBfI/AAAAAAAAFtw/zI0Kez0OWZY/s1600/ncm+room.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h1&gt;&lt;a href="http://inchristus.wordpress.com/2011/12/05/sex-change-the-bible-translation/"&gt;Sex Change and Bible&amp;nbsp;Translation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;a class="gs-title" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2008/05/banning-womenmissional-chicks.html" target="_blank"&gt;Banning Women/&lt;b&gt;Missional&lt;/b&gt; Chicks&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a class="gs-title" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2008/05/women-in-leadershift.html" target="_blank"&gt; &lt;b&gt;Women&lt;/b&gt; in Leadershift: Rob Bell &amp;amp; Peruvian alpaca&amp;nbsp; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-6384805691034119819?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/6384805691034119819/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/junias-sex-changefemale-apostles-lost.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6384805691034119819'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/6384805691034119819'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/junias-sex-changefemale-apostles-lost.html' title='Junia&apos;s sex change:female apostles lost in translation'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_34nxmU7eG0/TuvJqEssBfI/AAAAAAAAFtw/zI0Kez0OWZY/s72-c/ncm+room.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-7600638384530208471</id><published>2011-12-16T14:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-16T14:30:11.617-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ecclesiology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='celtic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='paul hiebert'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='role of the pastor'/><title type='text'>celtic prayer buys back the middle zone from the televangelistas</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"&gt;One of my favorite teachers, George Hunter (had him at Asbury for MDiv communication classes) and another of my favorite teachers, Paul Hiebert (a weeklong&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;missiology, worldview and spiritual warfare&lt;/i&gt; class on Yale Divinity School Campus)&amp;nbsp; would have worked well together.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"&gt;Hunter picks up Hiebert's "Flaw of the Excluded Middle," and suggests&amp;nbsp; (with help from&amp;nbsp; Ray SimpsonRichard Mouw) that Celtic contemplative prayer can buy back the middle zone from the televangelists and megachurch pastors..s&lt;b&gt;ee pp&amp;nbsp; 31-32 120&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0687085853/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-4453860-5145401#reader-link"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-7600638384530208471?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/7600638384530208471/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/celtic-prayer-buys-back-middle-zone.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7600638384530208471'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/7600638384530208471'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/celtic-prayer-buys-back-middle-zone.html' title='celtic prayer buys back the middle zone from the televangelistas'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-1143058884492973209</id><published>2011-12-16T14:09:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-16T14:21:02.124-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Parker Palmer video; The Risk of Incarnation</title><content type='html'>Parker Palmer &lt;a href="http://www.theworkofthepeople.com/index.php?ct=store.details&amp;amp;pid=V01023"&gt;here or below:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="225" mozallowfullscreen="" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/33003709?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0&amp;amp;color=cc6633" webkitallowfullscreen="" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/33003709"&gt;The Risk Of Incarnation&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/twotp"&gt;The Work Of The People&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.\\&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-1143058884492973209?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/1143058884492973209/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/doctype-html-public-w3cdtd-xhtml-1.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1143058884492973209'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1143058884492973209'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/doctype-html-public-w3cdtd-xhtml-1.html' title='Parker Palmer video; The Risk of Incarnation'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-5705591047908455354</id><published>2011-12-16T13:29:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-16T13:29:45.203-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ecclesiology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pete Rollins'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Žižek'/><title type='text'>The Revolutionary Potential of the Actually Existing Church</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a href="http://peterrollins.net/?p=3426" rel="bookmark"&gt;The Revolutionary Potential of the Actually Existing Church&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;span class="date"&gt;By Peter Rollins&lt;/span&gt;                     &lt;a href="http://peterrollins.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Untitled.jpg" rel="lightbox[3426]"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was recently reading Slavoj Zizek’s excellent essay “The Ambiguity  of the Masochist Social Link” and was struck by his reflection on how  symptoms can represent forgotten failures to act. I would like to  reflect upon this in relation to what we see in so much of the actually  existing church today.&lt;br /&gt;In order to approach this subject let us begin by taking the example  of a man who drinks to excess, neglects his children and mistreats his...&lt;a href="http://peterrollins.net/?p=3426"&gt;continued&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-5705591047908455354?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/5705591047908455354/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/revolutionary-potential-of-actually.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5705591047908455354'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/5705591047908455354'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/revolutionary-potential-of-actually.html' title='The Revolutionary Potential of the Actually Existing Church'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-674430219110651638</id><published>2011-12-16T13:16:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-16T13:20:51.815-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rob bell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='centered sets'/><title type='text'>The Marker Trick: "YEP!"</title><content type='html'>Rob Bell's "Marker Trick"  always helps me illustrate thee concept of fuzzy sets:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/3bqN_-03G2A" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2010/01/is-church-bs-or-cs.html"&gt;http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2010/01/is-church-bs-or-cs.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-674430219110651638?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/674430219110651638/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/marker-trick-yep.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/674430219110651638'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/674430219110651638'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/marker-trick-yep.html' title='The Marker Trick: &quot;YEP!&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/3bqN_-03G2A/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-1398137916563786805</id><published>2011-12-15T17:45:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T17:45:10.271-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirituality of music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='empire'/><title type='text'>"The King Will See You Now"</title><content type='html'>New Christmas album from Bill Mallonee  &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/hristmas...from%20the%20eyes%20of%20King%20Herod.%20The%20hands%20of%20the%20powerful%20will%20usually%20try%20and%20%22hush%20up%22%20truth.%20%22Business%20as%20usual,%22%20is%20their%20mantra.%20Truth%20is%20often%20%22inconvenient.%22%20Pilate's%20famous%20%22What%20is%20truth?%22%20maybe%20the%20most%20thoroughly%20%22modern%22%20phrase%20ever%20uttered%20by%20an%20ancient.%20%20The%20Christ%20Child's%20salvation%20is%20peaceable,%20merciful%20and%20above%20all,%20lasting.%20lyrics%20THE%20KING%20WILL%20SEE%20YOU%20NOW%20words/music:%20bill%20mallonee%20%20%20I%20heard%20you%20all%20came%20from%20pretty%20far%20%20to%20grace%20our%20little%20old%20town%20%20heard%20you%20saw%20some%20new%20bright%20stars%20%20ah,%20the%20king%20will%20see%20you%20now%20%20%20the%20king%20was%20pacing%20in%20his%20chambers%20%20clearly%20a%20worried%20man%20%20seems%20like%20for%20every%20neck%20ya%E2%80%99%20gotta%20wring,%20%20ah,%20ya%E2%80%99%20get%20to%20wring%20two%20hands%20%20%20ok,%20let%E2%80%99s%20put%20our%20cards%20on%20the%20table%20%20let%20us%20be%20of%20the%20same%20mind%20%20if%20you%E2%80%99d%20relay%20my%20goodwill%20%20ah,%20if%20you%E2%80%99d%20be%20so%20kind%20%20%20I%E2%80%99d%20welcome%20him%20in%20person%20if%20I%20could%20%20but%20there%E2%80%99s%20this%20shakey%20lil'%20government%20%20later%20on,%20I%E2%80%99ll%20bring%20the%20love%20in%20a%20motorcade%20%20with%20all%20that%20pomp%20and%20circumstance%20%20%20Chorus:%20%20and%20the%20pattern,%20it%20repeats%20itself%20%20when%20power%20is%20asked%20to%20bow%20%20whenever%20truth%20gets%20ushered%20in%20%20ah,%20the%20king%20will%20see%20you%20now%20%20%20Oh,%20I%E2%80%99ll%20offer%20him%20my%20worship%20%20my%20best%20wishes%20and%20bright%20hope%20%20never%20mind%20the%20dagger%20%20underneath%20my%20cloak%20%20%20I%20hear%20new%20kings%20get%20born%20every%20day%20%20So%20me?%20I%20don%E2%80%99t%20sweat%20it%20all%20that%20hard%20%20Isn%E2%80%99t%20life%20just%20the%20funniest%20thing?%20%20With%20all%20this%20changing%20of%20the%20guard?%20%20%20Chorus%20%20%20They%20say%20that%20patriotism%20is%20the%20last%20refuge%20%20to%20which%20a%20scoundrel%20clings%20%20I%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20that%20with%20my%20own%20two%20eyes%20%20then%20I%20saw%20it%20in%20a%20dream%20%20%20Must%20be%20time%20to%20guard%20your%20turf%20%20must%20be%20time%20to%20guard%20your%20home%20%20whenever%20the%20truth%20shows%20up%20drunk%20with%20love%20%20and%20gets%20too%20close%20to%20the%20bone%20%20%20Chorus:%20%20and%20the%20pattern,%20it%20repeats%20itself%20%20when%20power%20is%20asked%20to%20bow%20%20whenever%20truth%20gets%20ushered%20in%20%20ah,%20the%20king%20will%20see%20you%20now%20%20%20there%E2%80%99s%20always%20a%20steel%20door%20to%20be%20slammed%20%20when%20she%20gets%20a%20little%20loud%20%20whenever%20truth%20gets%20outta%20hand%20%20ah,%20the%20kind%20will%20see%20you%20now%20credits%20from%20WONDERLAND,%20track%20released%2016%20December%202011%20%20Bill%20Mallonee:%20vocals,%20guitars,%20bass,%20drums"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;(more Mallonee music &lt;a href="http://billmalloneemusic.bandcamp.com/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0" height="100" src="http://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/v=2/track=1692555067/size=venti/bgcol=FFFFFF/linkcol=4285BB/" style="display: block; height: 100px; position: relative; width: 400px;" width="400"&gt;&amp;amp;lt;p&amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;p&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;p&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;p&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;p&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;p&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;a href="http://billmalloneemusic.bandcamp.com/track/the-king-will-see-you-now-2"&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;THE KING WILL SEE YOU NOW by Bill Mallonee &amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp; Muriah Rose&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/a&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;&amp;amp;lt;/p&amp;amp;gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;dd class="tralbumData tralbumAbout" style="background-color: #311e12; color: #f6f3f3; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-style: italic; line-height: 14px; margin-left: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"&gt;hristmas...from the eyes of King Herod. The hands of the powerful will usually try and "hush up" truth. "Business as usual," is their mantra. Truth is often "inconvenient." Pilate's famous "What is truth?" maybe the most thoroughly "modern" phrase ever uttered by an ancient.&lt;br /&gt;The Christ Child's salvation is peaceable, merciful and above all, lasting.&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;dt class="hiddenAccess" style="background-color: #311e12; color: #f6f3f3; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; left: -10000px; line-height: 14px; margin-top: 1.5em; position: absolute; top: -10000px;"&gt;lyrics&lt;/dt&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;dd class="tralbumData lyricsText" style="background-color: #311e12; color: #f6f3f3; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px; margin-left: 0px; margin-top: 1em;"&gt;THE KING WILL SEE YOU NOW words/music: bill mallonee&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I heard you all came from pretty far&lt;br /&gt;to grace our little old town&lt;br /&gt;heard you saw some new bright stars&lt;br /&gt;ah, the king will see you now&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the king was pacing in his chambers&lt;br /&gt;clearly a worried man&lt;br /&gt;seems like for every neck ya’ gotta wring,&lt;br /&gt;ah, ya’ get to wring two hands&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ok, let’s put our cards on the table&lt;br /&gt;let us be of the same mind&lt;br /&gt;if you’d relay my goodwill&lt;br /&gt;ah, if you’d be so kind&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’d welcome him in person if I could&lt;br /&gt;but there’s this shakey lil' government&lt;br /&gt;later on, I’ll bring the love in a motorcade&lt;br /&gt;with all that pomp and circumstance&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chorus:&lt;br /&gt;and the pattern, it repeats itself&lt;br /&gt;when power is asked to bow&lt;br /&gt;whenever truth gets ushered in&lt;br /&gt;ah, the king will see you now&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, I’ll offer him my worship&lt;br /&gt;my best wishes and bright hope&lt;br /&gt;never mind the dagger&lt;br /&gt;underneath my cloak&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hear new kings get born every day&lt;br /&gt;So me? I don’t sweat it all that hard&lt;br /&gt;Isn’t life just the funniest thing?&lt;br /&gt;With all this changing of the guard?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chorus&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They say that patriotism is the last refuge&lt;br /&gt;to which a scoundrel clings&lt;br /&gt;I’ve seen that with my own two eyes&lt;br /&gt;then I saw it in a dream&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Must be time to guard your turf&lt;br /&gt;must be time to guard your home&lt;br /&gt;whenever the truth shows up drunk with love&lt;br /&gt;and gets too close to the bone&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chorus:&lt;br /&gt;and the pattern, it repeats itself&lt;br /&gt;when power is asked to bow&lt;br /&gt;whenever truth gets ushered in&lt;br /&gt;ah, the king will see you now&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;there’s always a steel door to be slammed&lt;br /&gt;when she gets a little loud&lt;br /&gt;whenever truth gets outta hand&lt;br /&gt;ah, the kind will see you now&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;dt class="hiddenAccess" style="background-color: #311e12; 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IT COULD END BADLY!'"</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/RhS2-K1EUBI" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-478956269630205867?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/478956269630205867/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/whens-last-time-you-heard-this-preached.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/478956269630205867'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/478956269630205867'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/whens-last-time-you-heard-this-preached.html' title='&quot;When&apos;s the last time you heard this preached?: &apos;FOLLOW GOD!  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line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;Some intersections with the gospel &amp;amp; theology&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;ul style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px; list-style-image: initial; list-style-position: outside; margin-bottom: 1.5em; margin-left: 1.4em; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 1.5em; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;li style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;Discipleship is more like teaching the piano than passing on information&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;en masse&lt;/em&gt;. Think about how kids learn to play the piano: a parent or a teacher sits down on the bench next to them one-on-one. They aren’t invited into a class when they hit a certain age and are expected to learn to play the piano.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;We can “live into” realities that are not present.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;Vision must be big &amp;amp; not incremental. Moving from 3% to 4% is not visionary. We should strive for 100%.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;Stop emphasizing every note, but think about the long line from b to e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;When other people’s eyes are not shining, who am I being to cause that? Not,&amp;nbsp;&lt;em style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;what is wrong with them?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;Our job is to awaken the possibilities in others&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;The conductor never speaks but engages all&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;We must believe in the outcome&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;One-buttock playing = passionate, consuming, internalized&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 1.2em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: red;"&gt;His face showed he cared and was passionate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; -&lt;a href="http://mattcleaver.com/2011/06/29/the-gospel-according-to-chopin/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mattcleaver+%28MattCleaver.com%29&amp;amp;utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher"&gt;Matt Cleaver&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-3265158506895914573?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/3265158506895914573/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/one-buttock-gospel-according-to-chopin.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3265158506895914573'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3265158506895914573'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/one-buttock-gospel-according-to-chopin.html' title='The One-Buttock Gospel According to Chopin'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-396764769895711905</id><published>2011-12-15T06:49:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T06:49:19.081-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sexuality'/><title type='text'>"Love, Sex and the Sacred"</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Bsn_wRn1TuY" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'Most Christian books about sex are as unreal and abstract as pornography." -&lt;a href="http://technorati.com/lifestyle/article/christian-pioneer-redefines-sexuality-for-a/"&gt;-Tyler Blanksi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-396764769895711905?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/396764769895711905/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/love-sex-and-sacred.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/396764769895711905'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/396764769895711905'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/love-sex-and-sacred.html' title='&quot;Love, Sex and the Sacred&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/Bsn_wRn1TuY/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-1917894818105411820</id><published>2011-12-15T06:39:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T18:10:27.634-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='u2 1990s'/><title type='text'>U2 - Who's gonna ride your wild horses (Baby Version)</title><content type='html'>"I'm a sinner, you're the holy child&lt;br /&gt;But your Sacred Heart is a savage scratching at my door&lt;br /&gt;And your lips of blood have me screaming out&lt;br /&gt;For more and more"/&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.atu2.com/lyrics/lyrics.src?VID=18&amp;amp;SID=1135"&gt;-full lyrics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="300" mozallowfullscreen="" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/32569509?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0" webkitallowfullscreen="" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/32569509"&gt;U2 - Who's gonna ride your wild horses (Baby Version) Kindergarten&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/user9242924"&gt;Felicia Brundia&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-1917894818105411820?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/1917894818105411820/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/u2-whos-gonna-ride-your-wild-horses.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1917894818105411820'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1917894818105411820'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/u2-whos-gonna-ride-your-wild-horses.html' title='U2 - Who&apos;s gonna ride your wild horses (Baby Version)'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-3956685418145953388</id><published>2011-12-15T06:36:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T06:36:04.264-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='u2 1990s'/><title type='text'>U2: "Near the Island"</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="300" mozallowfullscreen="" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/31408605?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0" webkitallowfullscreen="" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/31408605"&gt;U2 - Near The Island (Instrumental)&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/user5090922"&gt;Spiros Papadatos&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Excerpt from "Like a Song" column at atu2:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background-color: white; color: black; width: 960px;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td id="content" style="background-image: url(http://www.atu2.com/images/bb-bkgd.gif); background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; padding-bottom: 15px;" valign="top" width="540"&gt;&lt;h1 class="headline" style="border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-width: 1px; color: #af1630; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 24px; font-weight: 100; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 20px; text-transform: uppercase;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;LIKE A SONG: NEAR THE ISLAND&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear: right;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" style="line-height: 16px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.atu2.com/" style="color: #00275a;" target="_blank"&gt;@U2&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span id="twitauthor"&gt;&lt;span id="twitauthor"&gt;By:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.atu2.com/contact/" style="color: #00275a;" target="_blank"&gt;Sherry Lawrence&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;As the quiet instrumental “Near The Island” filled the house, I felt like I was being transported out of my toy-filled living room and brought to some sort of tropical getaway or exclusive spa retreat. The peacefulness of this song felt out of place compared with all its Achtung Baby-era siblings. The piano and guitar seduced me in a way I didn’t expect. While the guitar provides the backbone, the piano presents an exploration of mood: steady, hushed, dance-like, stern (especially at the 1:08 mark), but mostly gentle. “Near The Island” has challenged me in ways I didn’t expect in that I realized that simplicity is underrated. Don’t get me wrong, as a U2 fan I do miss Adam and Larry’s touch in the song. Bono’s a great lyricist, but sometimes there’s more said when you say nothing at all.&lt;br /&gt;After a day of loud toys and screaming children, I long for a change of pace. However, I know when this stage passes, I’ll long for the days of scattered Tinkertoys and puzzle pieces. “Near The Island” has allowed me to recognize that life passes quickly, and while it’s important to take a timeout to rejuvenate the soul, it’s important to cherish the precious moments each stage of life brings.&lt;br /&gt;“Near The Island” has reinvigorated me as a U2 fan and has me very curious about the tracks that could make up Songs Of Ascent. The softer side of U2 is just as relevant, and as I’ve come to discover, it’s just as challenging as the punk side of the band. They continue to reinvent themselves to push the envelope more artistically. In a box set filled with rock ’n’ roll, club remixes, ballads, punk and electronica, a song like this may not be like the others, but it certainly does belong. As do the Legos on my kitchen table.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white; font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 15px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.atu2.com/news/like-a-song-near-the-island.html"&gt;c)@U2/Lawrence, 2011, link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-3956685418145953388?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/3956685418145953388/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/u2-near-island.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3956685418145953388'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/3956685418145953388'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/u2-near-island.html' title='U2: &quot;Near the Island&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-1941416299629305889</id><published>2011-12-15T06:31:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T07:11:14.304-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='technology'/><title type='text'>Kurzweill: biological/technological evolution is "spiritual"..</title><content type='html'>&lt;object height="328" width="512"&gt; &lt;param name = "movie" value = "http://www-tc.pbs.org/s3/pbs.videoportal-prod.cdn/media/swf/PBSPlayer.swf" &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="video=1570145454&amp;player=viral&amp;end=0&amp;lr_admap=in:warnings:0;in:pbs:0" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name = "allowscriptaccess" value = "always" &gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www-tc.pbs.org/s3/pbs.videoportal-prod.cdn/media/swf/PBSPlayer.swf" flashvars="video=1570145454&amp;player=viral&amp;end=0&amp;lr_admap=in:warnings:0;in:pbs:0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" wmode="transparent" allowfullscreen="true" width="512" height="328" bgcolor="#000000"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="background: transparent; color: grey; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; text-align: center; width: 512px;"&gt;Watch &lt;a href="http://video.pbs.org/video/1570145454" style="color: #4eb2fe !important; font-weight: normal !important; height: 13px; text-decoration: none !important;" target="_blank"&gt;Ray Kurzweil Extended Interview&lt;/a&gt; on PBS. See more from &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/" style="color: #4eb2fe !important; font-weight: normal !important; height: 13px; text-decoration: none !important;" target="_blank"&gt;Religion &amp;amp; Ethics NewsWeekly.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-1941416299629305889?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/1941416299629305889/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/kurzweill-biologicaltechnological.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1941416299629305889'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1941416299629305889'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/kurzweill-biologicaltechnological.html' title='Kurzweill: biological/technological evolution is &quot;spiritual&quot;..'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-1462733385244228662</id><published>2011-12-14T14:46:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-14T16:54:50.948-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pete Rollins'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='book reviews'/><title type='text'>Peter Rollins interviewed By Kim and Ken</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CMiTxYb9lFE/Tukm8XoynAI/AAAAAAAAFtY/nFOq20jYBmI/s1600/shock.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="171" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CMiTxYb9lFE/Tukm8XoynAI/AAAAAAAAFtY/nFOq20jYBmI/s200/shock.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;What a catch!&amp;nbsp; The&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.kimandken.info/interviews.html"&gt;Kim and (Keltic) Ken&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; show scored an audio interview with Peter Rollins ..on his &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/08/insurrection-by-peter-rollins-churcj.html"&gt;:"Insurrection&lt;/a&gt;" book and other subversionicities.&amp;nbsp; Don't miss:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ARRLW9x0Fyk/TulFNURWvwI/AAAAAAAAFtg/dFof_iEoYGQ/s1600/audio_icon.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ARRLW9x0Fyk/TulFNURWvwI/AAAAAAAAFtg/dFof_iEoYGQ/s200/audio_icon.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;part 1 &lt;a href="http://www.kimandken.info/uploads/3/5/1/3/3513806/rollins_part_1.mp3"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;part 2 &lt;a href="http://www.kimandken.info/uploads/3/5/1/3/3513806/rollins_part_2.mp3"&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21118726-1462733385244228662?l=davewainscott.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/feeds/1462733385244228662/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/peter-rollins-interviewed-by-kim-and.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1462733385244228662'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21118726/posts/default/1462733385244228662'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/12/peter-rollins-interviewed-by-kim-and.html' title='Peter Rollins interviewed By Kim and Ken'/><author><name>dave</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CMiTxYb9lFE/Tukm8XoynAI/AAAAAAAAFtY/nFOq20jYBmI/s72-c/shock.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-5001639568260772404</id><published>2011-12-14T14:00:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-14T14:05:59.464-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='U2 2000s'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='trinity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reading the Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='capon'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Matrix'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mark DeRaud'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spiritual warfare'/><title type='text'>sin at Niagara Falls overcome and dismantled by an atomic wiki- dance</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-u05FermXYjQ/TukcTaDmnII/AAAAAAAAFtQ/Yv7K2DNXYcc/s1600/stop_sinning_button-p145429390588371734tmn2_210.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-u05FermXYjQ/TukcTaDmnII/AAAAAAAAFtQ/Yv7K2DNXYcc/s1600/stop_sinning_button-p145429390588371734tmn2_210.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I collect definitions of sin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know: some collect stamps.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But that would be sin for me if I'm called to collect definitions of sin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And though it is a dusty academic job, it beats collecting dust.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's a definition: &lt;b&gt;corporate mistrust&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If that's the definition, than it&amp;nbsp; can only be overcome by the Coroprate Truust in us which the&amp;nbsp; Shematic Trinity offers us in Jesus' death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We'll get to that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Recovering-Scandal-Cross-Atonement-Contemporary/product-reviews/0830815716"&gt;Joel Green and Mark Baker&lt;/a&gt; helpfully remind us&amp;nbsp; that even though we have been told that the key theory of the atonement is penal substitution, it is more helpful&amp;nbsp; and biblical to view and consider&amp;nbsp; a&amp;nbsp; "constellation of images."&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; And they remind us that if there is indeed a ":controlling metaphor,"&amp;nbsp; it may well&amp;nbsp; be a surprising&amp;nbsp; subversive one (like Christus Victor); one with biblical evidence; but one that most American Christians have never even heard of. (Better watch more &lt;a href="http://bib300fall2011.blogspot.com/2011/11/1122-atonement-peanuts-matrix-mark.html"&gt;Matrix and C.S. Lewis!)&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And so it is with definitions of sin.&amp;nbsp; Though&amp;nbsp; faithful and hugely helpful...and&lt;i&gt; it will preac&lt;/i&gt;h (this may be the problem, we are pastor types fall into the seduction of reductionism)...the&amp;nbsp; evangelical&amp;nbsp; definition of sin as "missing the mark/bullseye" (an archery image) ; that commonly-accepted sermon and sound byte&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (see Stein's great section on the fallacy of interpreting biblical terms only by etymology.., in fact, "etymology of&amp;nbsp; a word is of&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt; little value &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;in biblical interpretation"&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=oxu_m94O3KQC&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;dq=stein+basic+guide+interpreting&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=NRvpTrSXEIKOigLe-fmdDA&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=book-preview-link&amp;amp;resnum=1&amp;amp;ved=0CDMQuwUwAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=stein%20basic%20guide%20interpreting&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;p. 193&lt;/a&gt;')ay lead to us missing the multifaceted "constellation of images" for defining/picturing/seeing (ask &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/05/taste-and-see-mark-deraud-video.html"&gt;Mark DeRaud about seeing&lt;/a&gt;) "sin."&amp;nbsp; And again, if a controlling metaphor&amp;nbsp; does emerge from a&amp;nbsp; holistic study of the text and context,&amp;nbsp; it may well be&amp;nbsp; a surprising one, subversive to eveverything we've learned in Sunday School.&amp;nbsp; Everything we know may be largely right; but radically wrong if seen in isolation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Speaking of isolation, no one can sin in isolation.&amp;nbsp; All sin is relatio and relational, even if it is committed alone (lust, angry thoughts..etc).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's corporate mistrust.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Using a gift ..or just my default modus operandi ..that Tim has identified in me.."&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/09/sts-sudzi-and-tim-pushing-tward.html"&gt;pushing toward the unobvious"&lt;/a&gt;..let's push.&amp;nbsp; I will&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; integtrate&amp;nbsp; "obvious" arguments from "obviously" relatred sources as&amp;nbsp; we progress, such as the shocking story of Niagra Falls and dance theory..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;..in addition to some more classically theological sources of course..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First up is Scot McKnight, in his penetrating book] "&lt;a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/35381787/A-Community-Called-Atonement"&gt;A Community Called Atonement.&lt;/a&gt;"&amp;nbsp; As you can see by the title of the book, he winds up suggesting that what we have often seen as the ultimate individual act of God...the death of one person, alone on the cross..is actually instead/also the definitive act of community/communitas/communal act (he doesn't necessarily say all this directly, but I am drawing from his inspiration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Could it be that all sin is "sinned" corporately, collectively..as part of a matrix/mileuex/&lt;a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=%22holy+heteroclite%22+system+machine&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;amp;client=firefox-a"&gt;machine&lt;/a&gt; and system/ systemic/syn?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With decades of research, &lt;a href="http://ascc.artsci.wustl.edu/%7Eksawyer/groupgenius/"&gt;Keith Sawyer ("Group Genius")&lt;/a&gt; has telliungly concluded that all acts of genius are corporate, relational, even/ especially the ones (Thomas Edison did not invent the light bulb, etc).. This is just how the brain works, we are never alone...even in the lonely lab.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are never alone.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; We never walk alone...and never sin alone,&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; and are never saved alone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Walter Wink is insighful on systemic evil and "the powers."&lt;br /&gt;And consider revisiting a scripture we know&amp;nbsp; (or not) too well: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;Often, due to our Western/modernity/Christendom mindset-worldview,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;we completely misunderstand ..and &lt;a href="ttp://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/04/jesus-is-gone-id-like-to-turn-it-into.html"&gt;"misundertake"&lt;/a&gt; Scriptures..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;especially in an individualistic (and dualistic) way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(see &lt;a class="l" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/12/i-am-in-sin-if-i-avoid-appearance-of.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;I am in sin if I &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;avoid&lt;/i&gt; the &lt;i&gt;appearance&lt;/i&gt; of evil'"&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How  many have heard a sermon on "our righteousness is like filthy rags"    (Isaiah 64:6) which was all about our individual sins/filthy habits...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;not  grasping that it actually says "All of us (as one, together) have  become like one who is unclean/Together, our (one, corporate)  righteousness is like filthy rags. "&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sure, we were found  individually unrighteousness; but the "more than the sum of its  individual parts" corporate unrighteousness is what is primarily  commented on here&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As usual, the King James only trips us up even more:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sounds like each individual has  several "unrighteousnesses"...which of curse we read as bad habits..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it's more akin to, we are a "committee of buzzards" (see&lt;a class="l" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2006/06/crash-of-rhinosa-committee-of-buzzards.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;"A Crash of Rhinos...a Committee of &lt;i&gt;Buzzards"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;); or better yet one bad buzzard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Not to be confused with &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Bad_Pig"&gt;"One Bad Pig"&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sure, we go bowling and do  &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2008/09/judo-alone.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;Judo Alone&lt;/a&gt;"...and that is sin, but we are worse off as "alone together."&lt;br /&gt;Likewise,  Isaiah 53:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt; We &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-weight: bold;"&gt;all&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;, like sheep, have gone astray,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-weight: bold;"&gt; each of us &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;has turned to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-weight: bold;"&gt; their&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt; own way;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;   and the LORD has laid on him&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;   the iniquity of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: red; font-weight: bold;"&gt;us all&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;..not fundamentally "the iniquity of each &lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/RWa5R8kleEA" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;individual one,"  but "the one iniquity (and inequity) of us all as one."&lt;a class="l" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2008/11/we-is-one-bad-rag.html"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;a class="l" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2008/11/we-is-one-bad-rag.html"&gt;&amp;nbsp;-&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;LINK: &amp;nbsp; "We is one bad rag"&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's take on the "corporate mistrust" definition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;McKinght:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Mark Biddle concludes that sin's essence is&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt; basic mistrust that manifests itself as pride and fear&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;--as seeking to be both more than we are and less than we are.."&amp;nbsp; (p, 47)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note this definition eschews a radically PealeSchuller/Osteenish definition of sin as sourced in low self esteem/low self-worth'; or in the prosperity gospel's "little gods" theology.&amp;nbsp; The definition is not complete with "less than we are" and "fear."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is complete with the inclusion of "more than we are" and "pride."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And ironically, I am proud of my humility!&amp;nbsp; That's 
