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Hot topics include: temple tantrums, time travel, sexuality/spirituality, U2kklesia, role of the pastor, God-haunted music/art..and <u><a href="http://tiny.cc/jv">subversive videos like these</a></u>.davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.comBlogger4816125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-61117001540336871572024-01-15T16:33:00.000-08:002024-01-15T16:33:26.771-08:00God-haunted music: Model Engine/ The World is a Beautiful Place, and I Am No Longer Afraid To Die<p> I don't know how I ever missed these two bands:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiKeyGrBlXCW1LmZ1July6ZInFUUMvdggYdY-6K37rwzjM1c-e5Wz4RUekcaUZKbiawF7kQQtaT8jl8UDUQWzvj7PWPlLhy7_a8tuiY9O4umLxLI_BRL7ivYXipG3IGlYWdR-7MpWqKWo4SThymcLWytEhu5EoVOJtbN1M2s9FPkiYJrGkE6AC6kA/s642/niss.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="389" data-original-width="642" height="194" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiKeyGrBlXCW1LmZ1July6ZInFUUMvdggYdY-6K37rwzjM1c-e5Wz4RUekcaUZKbiawF7kQQtaT8jl8UDUQWzvj7PWPlLhy7_a8tuiY9O4umLxLI_BRL7ivYXipG3IGlYWdR-7MpWqKWo4SThymcLWytEhu5EoVOJtbN1M2s9FPkiYJrGkE6AC6kA/s320/niss.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p><br /></p><p><b><u>1)Model Engine</u></b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>See this from Rhett Smith:</b></p><p><br /></p><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><i>“In 1995 I was standing in the cleared out sanctuary of a church waiting for the headlining Christian band to come up and play. Christian music, at least in the small band, alternative format, was in its prime, and there didn’t seem to be one weekend that went by where there weren’t Christian alternative bands playing in my hometown of Phoenix, AZ. But this night was different. Everyone came out to<iframe seamless="" src="https://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/album=775579458/size=large/bgcol=ffffff/linkcol=0687f5/transparent=true/" style="border: 0; height: 786px; width: 350px;"><a href="https://modelengine.bandcamp.com/album/the-lean-years-tradition">The Lean Years Tradition by Model Engine</a></iframe> see the opening band, a local favorite, and between their set and the <span style="font-family: inherit;"><a style="color: #385898; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit;" tabindex="-1"></a></span>headlining act, almost everyone went home. Hundreds of kids left, and there were only a handful of us in the room. And I mean, probably 50-60 people.</i></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><i><br /></i></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><i>We were waiting for this band that we had never heard of before, and we figured, well, we might as well stay around. Three guys walk up to the stage, and as they began to play, we knew that we had never heard anything like them before…from the music…and especially to iframe style="border: 0; width: 350px; height: 786px;" src="https://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/album=775579458/size=large/bgcol=ffffff/linkcol=0687f5/transparent=true/" seamless><a href="https://modelengine.bandcamp.com/album/the-lean-years-tradition">The Lean Years Tradition by Model Engine</a></i></div>the lyrics. It was a transformative show. And who was this band?” <a href="http://www.cmcentral.com/artists/64.html" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-size: initial; border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #449a6c; font-family: "Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-size-adjust: 100%; vertical-align: baseline;" target="_"blank"">Black Eyed Sceva, who went on to become Model Engine</a>" <span face=""Open Sans", Helvetica, Arial, Lucida, sans-serif" style="color: #4c4c4c; font-size: 14px;">.</span><i><a href="https://rhettsmith.com/2005/09/black-eyed-sceva-and-model-engineno-one-was-like-them/?fbclid=IwAR00UM5VUG2dI9jJfRuS16QmiM3UCiHzix74OfQFPBf3-jY6Uuk030dKYI0"> link</a></i><div><i><br /></i></div><div><i>-</i></div><div><span style="background-color: #eeeeee;"><span face="Lato, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="font-size: 16.8px;">t wasn’t so much a departure in sound but rather an upgrade in sound production, songwriting, and that full band sound complete with different instrumentation and backing features. With the sound of this record there was absolutely no reason this couldn’t have been the biggest release of the late 90’s. I’ve praised this album a lot over the years and I count myself as a big fan of the band. Switchfoot were just starting to take off around this time and I could have seen the two bands touring together in the years that followed but unfortunately that didn’t happen. Although I do remember seeing both bands at some mini-fest in the abandoned department store of an old mall near us that was getting remodeled. I don’t know the whole story regarding the end of the band and one day I will interview Jeremy Post about it but it was always a sad part of our scene to lose a group of guys that were intensely talented and passionate about what they did. They were in terms of lyrics, lightyears ahead of many other bands at that time (except for their label mates FIF who always seemed to pull out an endless supply of witty and thought-provoking words). So, long story short, the fantastic 1997 album by Model Engine is now finally available on all digital networks for the first time. Head over to Spotify and Apple Music right now and check out Model Engine “The Lean Years Tradition”. The band members themselves are responsible for the re-release and all support goes to them. The album has been remixed/Remastered as well. Enjoy! <a href="https://www.indievisionmusic.com/news/model-engine-the-lean-years-tradition-is-now-available-digitally/">link</a></span><i><br /></i></span><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;">--</div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span> Interview with frontman:</span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br /></div><p style="background-color: white; color: navy;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica;"><span>Linda - You never liked religion much.</span></span><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica;"><span></span></span></p><p style="background-color: white; color: navy;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica;"><span>Jeremy - (laughs) No, but I think traveling has been the best thing for me. It's nice to see how other Christians serve the Lord. God uses people in so many different areas and walks of life. If I just sit out in my house in California and that's all I see, I get a pretty limited view. So it's nice to go across the states, or go to Europe and see how Christians adapt to their environment, finding the different ways people serve. </span></span><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica;"><span></span></span></p><p style="background-color: white; color: navy;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica;"><span>Linda - Your new material has more graphic language. "Reeberbahn," for example, is about your encounter with a prostitute before going on stage in Hamburg, Germany. Why do you choose such harsh subject matter?</span></span><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica;"><span></span></span></p><p style="background-color: white; color: navy;"><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica;"><span>Jeremy - That's not something we've tried to do. I've been writing songs for a long time, and a lot of people considered the songs that ended up on our albums abrasive because of the things they talked about. What I thought was pretty nice and mellow, people thought was on the edge of being too graphic. As I've matured, I've come to think that life is graphic and abrasive a lot of times. If you're going to be writing songs about that, you have to bring those elements in or you're not being honest. That's why I appreciate Vigilantes of Love so much because Bill Mallonee writes so poetically about real struggles. </span></span><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica;"><span></span></span></p><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial, Helvetica; font-size: small;">We definitely are in the Christian market. We end up playing with bands, though, whose thing is writing songs that are more at home in a church--talking about Jesus, praising the Lord with terms that are easy for the Christian community to swallow--whereas I would hope that our music praises God in a way that is real. I see life, I see the down side of it, and I go, "Wow! God's doing a work here?" If I can convey the way that I see God glorified, I think that will glorify God all the more, but it's not going </span><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial, Helvetica; font-size: small;"> </span><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial, Helvetica; font-size: small;">to be cheerleading other people to praise the Lord. Our job, our calling is to say, "This is my life. This is my experience, and here's how God worked through this experience to change me." Hopefully, that will be reflected in our music.</span><span style="color: navy; font-family: Arial, Helvetica; font-size: small;"> </span><a href="https://tollbooth.org/features/mengine.html" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica; font-size: small;">Link</a></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;">Lyrics to "Reeperbahn":</div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br /></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;">on a curb with hamburg's dust under my shoe</span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;"> things for sale as black as hell in pyrite's golden hue</span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;"> there's a ten-foot high window display for something bittersweet</span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;"> a book shop sets my backdrop on a busy port town street </span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;"><br /></span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;">there's a cigarette stuck in the mouth of an overpainted..</span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;"><br /></span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;">on a curb in hamburg watching the junkies</span><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;"> </span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;">zigzag breathing something mysterious</span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;"> into an otherwise empty bag outside the shops that never close</span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;"> on a moonless, starless night across from where the harlots pose</span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;"> beneath a block-wide neon light </span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;">there's a cigarette stuck in the mouth of an overpainted whore</span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><span face=""Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="color: #363636; font-size: 12px; white-space-collapse: preserve-breaks;"> and she comes so close i can smell the smoke and she makes a quote for the price of her wares</span></div><div dir="auto" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br /></div><iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/kdjWSu_NGPo?si=b9ty9tG-2N4sQQ0o" title="YouTube video player" width="560"></iframe><div><br /></div><div>See:</div><div><a data-ved="2ahUKEwi40KDzzOCDAxUIfDABHcAEDzEQFnoECA4QAw" href="https://modelengine.bandcamp.com/album/the-lean-years-tradition" jsname="UWckNb" ping="/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://modelengine.bandcamp.com/album/the-lean-years-tradition&ved=2ahUKEwi40KDzzOCDAxUIfDABHcAEDzEQFnoECA4QAw" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.1); background-color: white; color: #1a0dab; font-family: Roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: small; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><h3 class="LC20lb MBeuO DKV0Md" style="display: inline-block; font-size: 20px; font-weight: 400; line-height: 1.3; margin: 18px 0px 0px; padding: 5px 0px 0px;">The Lean Years Tradition | Model Engine - Bandcamp</h3></a></div><div><br /></div><div>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div><b><u>2)The World is a Beautiful Place, and I Am No Longer Afraid To Die</u></b></div></div><div><b><u><br /></u></b></div><div><b>Start with the closing song/suite on <i>"Illusory Walls"</i>: "Fewer Afraid". </b></div><div><b><br /></b></div><div><b>Excerpt from Spotify:<br /></b><div class="xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs x126k92a" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;">Sometimes, the best place to begin is at the end. If you really want to dig deep into Illusory Walls, the fourth album by The World Is A Beautiful Place & I Am No Longer Afraid To Die, it definitely helps to do that. That’s because epic closer “Fewer Afraid”—all 19 minutes, 44 seconds of it—doesn’t just revisit the themes and ideas on the ten songs that precede it, but also offers a self-aware summary of the Connecticut band’s entire history. It’s the conclusion of all the <span style="font-family: inherit;"><a style="color: #385898; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit;" tabindex="-1"></a></span>stories within the record as well as a nod to all the lives that helped make them—little glimpses of everything that’s come before, on both a micro, immediate level, and a more universal one. </div></div><div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;">“That song is a higher level look at my whole life and the whole world,” explains vocalist/guitarist David F. Bello, “as well as the album, our band, and our discography. It places the band in the context of the rest of the world as if we’re listening to everything that came before. It touches on all the themes of the previous songs, but there are also callbacks to songs from earlier in our career. But in this song, they’re the object, not the subject—I’m talking about a world in which these things happen, not talking about these things happening.” <a href="https://www.roughtrade.com/en-us/product/the-world-is-a-beautiful-place-and-i-am-no-longer-afraid-to-die/illusory-walls-1">-Spotify</a></div></div></div><div><b><u><br /></u></b></div><div><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: inherit; color: #0a0a0a; font-family: gill-sans-nova, BlinkMacSystemFont, -apple-system, Roboto, "Lucida Sans"; font-feature-settings: "kern"; font-kerning: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.6; margin: 0px 0px 1rem; padding: 0px; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; word-spacing: 0.001em;"><br /></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: inherit; color: #0a0a0a; font-family: gill-sans-nova, BlinkMacSystemFont, -apple-system, Roboto, "Lucida Sans"; font-feature-settings: "kern"; font-kerning: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.6; margin: 0px 0px 1rem; padding: 0px; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; word-spacing: 0.001em;">This post-rock direction carries forth what is nearly another LP in it of itself—two towering tracks that together total nearly 40 minutes, “Infinite Josh” and “Fewer Afraid”. Both tracks pay compliment to the band’s increasing and expanded fidelity and instrumentation, with compositions that go between serene, delicate and gentle, to spaced out and utterly triumphant, a sense of light amid the dark. At their weakest, these longer explorations can proceed with a certain languor before reaching their zenith. But at that apotheosis is the purpose, and the intent of it to begin with. Between the more traditional songwriting and the exploratory spaces, there’s a consciousness of the material and immaterial, concrete while remaining keenly experimental. It feels like it’s going to break, like it’s going to push into the ether, and that catharsis is resolute throughout the album. </p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: inherit; color: #0a0a0a; font-family: gill-sans-nova, BlinkMacSystemFont, -apple-system, Roboto, "Lucida Sans"; font-feature-settings: "kern"; font-kerning: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: 1.6; margin: 0px 0px 1rem; padding: 0px; text-rendering: optimizelegibility; word-spacing: 0.001em;"><em style="box-sizing: inherit; line-height: inherit;">Illusory Walls</em> is an exploration of darkness, adding definition to the creeping and stalking fears that rattle our<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/IWb9jbfso8g?si=ImrVybjGMeqWSBFi" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe> ribs and cause us to lose sleep. The anxieties of hearts well worn, sometimes from each other, sometimes from the crushing weight of what feels like a dying planet. In it though, there is a solidarity, a hope, a sense of community that we’re all going through together, as we approach new fears, we put aside old ones to see what’s left. <em style="box-sizing: inherit; line-height: inherit;">Illusory Walls</em> is a stunning effort of lyrical revelation and sonic rawness in equal measure. While it may chronicle an age of despair in meticulous fashion, it speaks volumes about the potential of who we are, and what we can be. <a href="https://www.treblezine.com/the-world-is-a-beautiful-place-illusory-walls-review/">link</a></p></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><h1 style="background-color: #f1f0f0; box-sizing: inherit; color: #464646; font-family: "Roboto Slab", Georgia, Times, serif; line-height: 1.05em; margin: 0px 0px 0.4em; padding: 0.3em 0px 0px; text-align: center; text-rendering: optimizelegibility;"><a href="https://www.getalternative.com/album-review-the-world-is-a-beautiful/"><span style="font-size: 2.6em;">A</span><span style="font-size: small;">lbum Review: The World Is a Beautiful Place and I Am No Longer Afraid to Die – ‘Illusory Walls’</span></a></h1>
Pitchfork:<div><h1 class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ SplitScreenContentHeaderHed-lcUSuI iUEiRd fnwdMb fTtZlw" data-testid="ContentHeaderHed" style="--type-token: consumptionEditorial.hed-standard; background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-family: TiemposHeadline, helvetica, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: normal; font-size: 48px; line-break: auto; line-height: 1.25em; margin: 0px; max-width: 500px; overflow-wrap: normal; padding: 1rem 0px; text-align: center;"><em style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: normal;">Illusory Walls</em><a class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ BaseLink-eNWuiM SplitScreenContentHeaderArtistLink-joHTqI iUEiRd caJArb lijBeg fJCRgN" href="https://pitchfork.com/artists/31608-the-world-is-a-beautiful-place-i-am-no-longer-afra/" style="--color__token-name: colors.interactive.base.light; --type-token: consumptionEditorial.body-core; background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #1a1a1a; cursor: pointer; display: inline-block; font-family: TiemposText, helvetica, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: normal; font-size: 16px; line-break: auto; line-height: 2em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: normal; transition-duration: 0.2s; transition-property: color, background, text-shadow; transition-timing-function: ease-in-out; vertical-align: middle;"><div class="BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ SplitScreenContentHeaderArtist-ftloCc iUEiRd jqOMmZ kRtQWW" style="--type-token: consumptionEditorial.description-core; box-sizing: border-box; color: black; display: inline; font-family: Walfork, helvetica, sans-serif; font-feature-settings: normal; font-size: 28px; line-break: auto; line-height: 1.4em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: normal;">The World Is a Beautiful Place & I Am No Longer Afraid to Die</div></a></h1></div>
<iframe seamless="" src="https://bandcamp.com/EmbeddedPlayer/album=4293474015/size=large/bgcol=ffffff/linkcol=f171a2/tracklist=false/transparent=true/" style="border: 0; height: 470px; width: 350px;"><a href="https://theworldis.bandcamp.com/album/illusory-walls">Illusory Walls by The World is a Beautiful Place & I am No Longer Afraid to Die</a></iframe>davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-50972924532406480642023-09-17T18:54:00.001-07:002023-11-30T15:19:08.454-08:00giving away $10,000<p><b> </b><span style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: inherit; font-size: 15px; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><b>Shane Claiborne , in <i>Practicing Jubilee</i>, pp.36-38 in <u>S<a href="https://www.amazon.com/School-Conversion-Monasticism-Resources-Discipleship/dp/1597520551" target="_blank">chools for Conversion</a></u><a href="https://www.amazon.com/School-Conversion-Monasticism-Resources-Discipleship/dp/1597520551" target="_blank">, edited by The Rutba House </a></b><a href="https://www.amazon.com/School-Conversion-Monasticism-Resources-Discipleship/dp/1597520551" target="_blank">:</a></span></p><div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;">“A couple of years ago we had two things happen. First, we won a lawsuit for police misconduct in <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4ETBMhEzYKU?si=bTGdlm13-e2c4lhw" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>New York City. The police had been arresting homeless people for sleeping in public, and charging them with disorderly conduct. I was arrested one night as I slept out in protest. Through a long legal process, I was found not guilty and filed a civil suit of wrongful arrest, <span style="font-family: inherit;"><a style="color: #385898; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit;" tabindex="-1"></a></span>wrongful prosecution, and police misconduct. And we won, in addition to a legal precedent, around $10,000. We knew it did not belong to me or to The Simple Way, but to the homeless in New York for all they endure. It was their victory. The second thing that happened was that after our study of biblical economics, we had an anonymous gift of $10,000 which had been invested in the Stock Market and now was being returned to the poor. A bunch of us started conspiring, and before long we said: It is time for a celebration of God's Jubilee.’ And where else should we have it but on Wall Street, in the face of the world's economy? This was not a one-time celebration, but an ancient celebration going back to Leviticus 25 and an eternal celebration of the New Jerusalem. We decided to send 100 dollars to 100 different communities that incarnate the spirit of Jubilee and the economics of love. Each $100 bill had ‘love’ written on it. And we invited everyone to Wall Street for the Jubilee.</div></div><div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;">After months of laughter and dreaming, it really happened.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;">About 40 people had all the change they could carry over 30,000 coins in bags, coffee mugs, briefcases, backpacks. Another 50 people would be meeting us on Wall Street. A dozen ‘secret stashers’ ran ahead, hiding hundreds of two-dollar bills all over lower Manhattan in parks, napkin holders, and phone booths. At 8:15 we started trickling into the public square in front of the main entrance to the New York Stock Exchange. Word of the redistribution had spread throughout New York, and nearly 100 folks from the alleys and projects were gathered. We had choreographed the celebration like a play production, making Wall Street the stage of our theatrics of counter-terror. At 8:20, Sister Margaret and I stepped forward to proclaim the Jubilee:</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;">—</div></div><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; padding: 0px; text-align: left;"><div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div style="font-family: inherit;"><i>‘Some of us have worked on Wall Street and some of us have slept on Wall Street. We are a community of struggle.</i></div></div><div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div style="font-family: inherit;"><i>Some of us are rich people trying to escape our loneliness.</i></div></div><div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div style="font-family: inherit;"><i>Some of us are poor folks trying to escape the cold. Some of us are addicted to drugs and others are addicted to money.</i></div></div><div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div style="font-family: inherit;"><i>We are a broken people who need each other and God, for we have come to recognize the mess that we have created of our world and how deeply we suffer from that mess.</i></div></div><div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div style="font-family: inherit;"><i>Now we are working together to give birth to a new society within the shell of the old. Another world is possible. Another world is necessary. Another world is already here The money for this Jubilee Celebration was formerly invested in the Stock Market. Over $10,000 has been set free, poured out to be shared with our sisters and brothers in need. This money belongs to the poor, the workers, the refugees, the homeless... to all those who have suffered most from the wreckage of the current system. May we return it with joy, with our heads bowed in repentance, and with our hearts lifted in Jubilee.’</i></div></div></blockquote><div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;">——</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;">Then Sister Margaret blew the ram's horn (like our Jewish ancestors used to), and we announced: ‘Let the celebration begin!’ Ten people stationed on balconies above the crowd threw hundreds of dollars in paper money, covering the sky. Then they dropped banners which read,</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;"> ‘STOP TERRORISM...<span style="font-family: inherit;"> SHARE.’</span></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;">‘love,’ and ‘THERE IS ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE'S NEED BUT NOT ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE'S GREED.’</div></div><div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;">The streets turned silver. Our ‘pedestrians,’ ‘tourists,’ ‘homeless’ and ‘business people ’began pouring out their change. We decorated the place with sidewalk chalk and filled the air with bubbles. Joy was contagious. Someone bought bagels and started giving them out. People started sharing their winter clothes. One of the street-sweepers winked at us as he flashed a dustpan full of money. Another guy hugged someone and said, ‘Now I can get my prescription filled.’</div></div><div class="x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a" style="background-color: white; color: #050505; font-family: "Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><div dir="auto" style="font-family: inherit;">It worked. We had no idea what would happen. We knew it was dangerous, intentionally bringing God and Mammon face to face. But this is precisely what we have committed our lives to. It is risky, and yet we are people of faith, believing that giving is more contagious than hoarding, that love can convert hatred, light can overcome darkness, and grass can pierce concrete.,,even on Wall Street."</div></div>davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-3768752509064764022023-09-16T14:43:00.001-07:002023-11-30T15:22:05.956-08:00many mansions in heaven?<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiRRhqd6wjADImBwjD7rRrE8CdGvawyFs_bvtlAkl9GnI_Vk1LbxqL9-aIYdsTLn1tRZZH3sg4yAv_WU9bH_eTJTWFD2h8m69BVIGNR3ajVMCnjR0dmDkeUcSVFhtKRFoVGav7B1lxAVkGVxNGNzwMY__B45hjYHM_BiHiGVaY3TxeaWyrMaMiUyg/s300/mansoin.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="168" data-original-width="300" height="168" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiRRhqd6wjADImBwjD7rRrE8CdGvawyFs_bvtlAkl9GnI_Vk1LbxqL9-aIYdsTLn1tRZZH3sg4yAv_WU9bH_eTJTWFD2h8m69BVIGNR3ajVMCnjR0dmDkeUcSVFhtKRFoVGav7B1lxAVkGVxNGNzwMY__B45hjYHM_BiHiGVaY3TxeaWyrMaMiUyg/s1600/mansoin.jpg" width="300" /></a></div><br />Craig Keener:<p></p><p><br /></p><p style="background-color: #fbf6f2; border: 0px; color: #40526a; font-family: Nunito, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: inherit; margin-bottom: 1.4em; margin-top: 0em; outline: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">Peter wants to follow Jesus wherever He goes, but Jesus tells him that if he wants to follow Jesus where He is going, he must follow Him to the death (John 13:31-38). Nevertheless, Peter and the other disciples should not be afraid; they should trust in Jesus the same way they trusted in the Father (14:1). He would prepare a dwelling-place for them in His Father’s house, and would come back afterwards to receive them to Himself (14:2-3). “You know where I’m going and how I will get there,” He told them (14:4). Perhaps like us, the disciples were confused, and Thomas spoke for all of them: “Lord, we don’t even know where You’re going; how can we know the way you’re getting there?” (14:5) So Jesus clarifies His point: Where He is going to the Father (14:6), and He is going there by dying on the Cross but would return afterward to give them the Spirit (14:18-19; 16:18-22). How would they get to the Father? By coming through Jesus, who is the way (14:6).</p><p style="background-color: #fbf6f2; border: 0px; color: #40526a; font-family: Nunito, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: inherit; margin-bottom: 1.4em; margin-top: 0em; outline: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">We often cite John 14:2-3 as a proof-text for Jesus’ future coming; conversely, we cite John 14:6 as a proof-text for salvation. But if we follow the flow of conversation, we have to be wrong about one of them. 14:2-3 declares that Jesus will bring them where He is going, but 14:6 tells us where He’s going and how we His followers will get there: He is going to the Father, and we come to the Father when we get saved through Jesus (14:6). Do we come to the Father through Jesus only when He returns in the future, or have we come to Him already through faith? The entire context makes this point clear. We enter the Father’s house when we become followers of Jesus Christ!</p><p style="background-color: #fbf6f2; border: 0px; color: #40526a; font-family: Nunito, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: inherit; margin-bottom: 1.4em; margin-top: 0em; outline: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">In the context of John’s entire Gospel, there is no reason to assume that the “Father’s house” refers to heaven, though it might be an allusion to the Temple (John 2:16) or to the Father’s household (John 8:35; and we are His new temple and His household). More helpfully, Jesus goes on to explain the “dwelling-places” (NIV: “rooms”) explicitly in the following context. The Greek word for “dwelling-place” used in 14:2 occurs in only one other verse in the New Testament—in this very context, in 14:23, part of Jesus’ continuing explanation of 14:2-4. “The one who loves Me will obey Me, and My Father will love that one and we will come make our ‘dwelling-place’ with that person” (14:23). The related verb appears throughout John 15:1-10: “Dwell [abide]” in Christ, and let Christ “dwell” in you. We all know that Jesus will return someday in the future, but if we read the rest of John we learn that Jesus also returned to them from the Father after His resurrection, when He gave the disciples the Spirit, peace and joy (20:19-23), just as He had promised (14:16-17, 26-27; 16:20-22). This is in fact the only coming the context addresses (14:18 in the context of 14:15-27; 16:12-24).</p><p style="background-color: #fbf6f2; border: 0px; color: #40526a; font-family: Nunito, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: inherit; margin-bottom: 1.4em; margin-top: 0em; outline: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">What is the real point of John 14:2-3? It is not that Jesus will return and we will be with Him someday—true as that teaching is from other texts. It is that Jesus returned after His resurrection so Christians could have life with Him (14:18-19), that He has already brought us into His presence and that we can experience the reality of His presence this very moment and at all times. This means that the same Jesus who washed his disciples feet in the preceding chapter, who taught and healed and suffered for us, is with us at this very moment. He invites us to trust His presence with us. -<a href="https://craigkeener.com/in-my-fathers-house-are-many-mansions-john-142-3/" target="_blank">link</a></p>davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-41938300576437824702023-09-05T18:45:00.002-07:002023-09-05T18:46:49.177-07:00"hear the good news: everyone dies"<p> </p><iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fL-ueZODUBk?si=cZr698qm4hswxpSU" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/r8ecWNnKiQA?si=qpok9JicxMOzpR-l" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-88633003394283852542022-12-10T12:47:00.000-08:002022-12-10T12:47:13.774-08:00Henri Nouwen in the restaurant <p>Henri Nouwen had an unfinished manuscript at the time of his death in 1996 about what he had learned (the intimacy and spirituality of interconnected teamwork etc) through watching and befriending a traveling trapeze troupe . The book just came out this year with the help of a friend . The book is very different than his 40 books on the spiritual life .</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the section I had in mind. Prepare yourself!</p><p>And it is absolutely nowhere online .. until now 😎</p><p><br /></p><p>I’ll post it without comment .. and duck ! I’ll chime in after some of you do .</p><p><br /></p><p>“As Henri became more at home in his body , he raised with several editors the possibility of writing a book that would directly explore the questions of sexuality . By the next summer, he mused to a journalist , ‘Every human lives a sexual life , whether you’re celibate [as Nouwen was as a priest/pastor] or whatever . Sexual life is life . That sexual life has to be lived as a life that deepens the communion with God and with our fellow human beings . And if it doesn’t , it can become very harmful . I haven’t found the language for It yet and hope I will someday .’</p><p><br /></p><p>Gradually , Henri began to feel a little more free, even playful. Early in 1996, he amused some of his New York editors over an elegant lunch at the Barbetta restaurant by blurting out happily , ‘Don’t think that I don’t want to have sex with everyone in this restaurant! I have fantasies just like everyone else !’ His editors stared in astonishment, looked speculatively around the restaurant, and then they all burst out laughing together with Henri.”</p><p><br /></p><p>-p.203,”Flying, Falling, Catching: an unlikely story of finding freedom “ by Henri Nouwen and Carolyn Whitney-Brown .</p><p>https://www.amazon.com/dp/006311352X/ref=tsm_1_tp_tc</p>davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-85494635743077059182021-02-12T14:56:00.001-08:002021-02-12T14:56:47.213-08:00the covenant post-Holocaust: "Only a wounded faith is worthy of a silent God"<p> </p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgMrZiIQS0xuVLy48hkPgEsFkIkot_8GtggVNEsAIqIJmqusuh03ybA-CGvSA3V6APFUBdRiFaAGD1sycPzcLdbO1ZbDXSO4vhmg2fwHyCKhi4IeBxjYKggzGvBY3O4MAsD00-Otg/s600/not.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="600" data-original-width="600" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgMrZiIQS0xuVLy48hkPgEsFkIkot_8GtggVNEsAIqIJmqusuh03ybA-CGvSA3V6APFUBdRiFaAGD1sycPzcLdbO1ZbDXSO4vhmg2fwHyCKhi4IeBxjYKggzGvBY3O4MAsD00-Otg/s320/not.png" /></a></div><br />"Children were sometimes burned alive at Auschwitz ..After describing this scene, Rabbi Greenburg put forward the following proposition: 'No statement, theological or otherwise, should be made that would not be credible in the presence of burning children.". -Gushee. p. 70, <i>After Evangelicalism</i><p></p><p>Highly recommended: read page 76 (and ideally the whole section of pp. 74-81) of Gushee's <i>After Evangelicalism (</i><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=tn8UEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA76&lpg=PA76&dq=gushee+%22wounded+faith%22+holocaust&source=bl&ots=kJTOIoqsKS&sig=ACfU3U3xqrCUozYJeeZqS6dT1g1sAUScDw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiAutWms-XuAhWBLn0KHV0zARgQ6AEwAHoECAIQAg#v=onepage&q=gushee%20%22wounded%20faith%22%20holocaust&f=false">read<i> </i>here</a>) ,where he covers Greenburg's suggestion that post-Holocaust, for the Jews, the covenant is no longer in a "commanded stage," but is now voluntary.</p><p><br /></p><blockquote style="border: none; margin: 0 0 0 40px; padding: 0px;"><p style="text-align: left;">"I<i>srael's relation with God has been severely wounded. Wiesel: ' Only a wounded faith can exist after these events. Only a wounded faith is worthy of a silent God.'...</i><i>God no longer has the right to demand covenant loyalty from his people.</i>" -Gushee. p. 76, <i>After Evangelicalism</i></p></blockquote>davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-72392122986259241102020-06-26T19:00:00.005-07:002020-06-27T13:38:13.862-07:00Top Ten Godhaunted songs #1: "Wish You Were Here"This is my first original blog post in YEARS, and inspired by a video my amazing friend St. Stacy posted a video of a neighbor <br />
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of hers singing Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" on his porch, as (I assume) a kind of gift to the neighborhood during this eerie "shelter in place."<br />
<br />
Many of us are on our codvid quarantine porches wishing<br />
<br />
somebody<br />
anybody<br />
was "here";<br />
<br />
Even if it's Chris Cornell-style, almost not caring who picks up the distress signal of a wishful wistful, atheistic theistic, prayerful unprayer.:<br />
<br />
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<span style="color: black;"><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: x-small;"><a annotation-fragment="1538451" class="referent referent--yellow referent--highlighted" classification="accepted" data-id="1538451" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-1538451" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="6" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(255, 255, 100) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(255, 255, 100) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-color: white;">On a cobweb afternoon in a room full of emptiness</span></a><br /><a annotation-fragment="1538451" class="referent referent--yellow referent--highlighted" classification="accepted" data-id="1538451" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-1538451" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="6" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(255, 255, 100) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(255, 255, 100) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;">By a freeway,</a> <a annotation-fragment="1538466" class="referent referent--yellow" classification="accepted" data-id="1538466" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-1538466" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="1" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(221, 221, 221) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(221, 221, 221) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;">I confess I was lost in the pages</a></span></span></blockquote>
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<span style="color: black;"><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: x-small;"><a annotation-fragment="1538466" class="referent referent--yellow" classification="accepted" data-id="1538466" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-1538466" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="1" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(221, 221, 221) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(221, 221, 221) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;"></a><a annotation-fragment="1538466" class="referent referent--yellow" classification="accepted" data-id="1538466" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-1538466" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="1" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(221, 221, 221) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(221, 221, 221) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;">Of a book full of death, reading how we'll die alone</a><br /><a annotation-fragment="1538466" class="referent referent--yellow" classification="accepted" data-id="1538466" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-1538466" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="1" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(221, 221, 221) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(221, 221, 221) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;">Of a book full of death, reading how we'll die alone</a><br /><a annotation-fragment="1538466" class="referent referent--yellow" classification="accepted" data-id="1538466" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-1538466" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="1" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(221, 221, 221) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(221, 221, 221) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-color: white;">Of a book full of death, reading how we'll die alone</span></a><br /><a annotation-fragment="1538481" class="referent referent--yellow" classification="accepted" data-id="1538481" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-1538481" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="2" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(221, 221, 221) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(221, 221, 221) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;">And if</a><a annotation-fragment="1538481" class="referent referent--yellow" classification="accepted" data-id="1538481" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-1538481" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="2" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(221, 221, 221) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(221, 221, 221) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;"> we're good, we'll lay to rest anywhere we want to go</a></span></span></blockquote>
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<span style="background-color: white;"><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: x-small;">I<a annotation-fragment="3085300" class="referent referent--yellow referent--highlighted" classification="accepted" data-id="3085300" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-3085300" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="6" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(255, 255, 100) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(255, 255, 100) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;">n your house, I long to be</a><a annotation-fragment="3085300" class="referent referent--yellow referent--highlighted" classification="accepted" data-id="3085300" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-3085300" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="6" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(255, 255, 100) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(255, 255, 100) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;">Room by room, patiently</a><a annotation-fragment="3085300" class="referent referent--yellow referent--highlighted" classification="accepted" data-id="3085300" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-3085300" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="6" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(255, 255, 100) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(255, 255, 100) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;">I'll wait for you there, like a stone</a><a annotation-fragment="3085300" class="referent referent--yellow referent--highlighted" classification="accepted" data-id="3085300" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-3085300" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="6" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(255, 255, 100) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(255, 255, 100) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;">I'll wait for you there, alone</a><br style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222;" /><span style="color: #222222;"><br /></span></span></span></blockquote>
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<a annotation-fragment="1538486" class="referent referent--yellow" classification="accepted" data-id="1538486" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-1538486" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="4" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(221, 221, 221) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(221, 221, 221) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;">And on my deathbed,<b> I will pray to the gods and the angels</b></a><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: blue;"><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: x-small;"><a annotation-fragment="1538486" class="referent referent--yellow" classification="accepted" data-id="1538486" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-1538486" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="4" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(221, 221, 221) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(221, 221, 221) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;"><b>Like a pagan to anyone who will take me to heaven</b></a><a annotation-fragment="1538499" class="referent referent--yellow" classification="accepted" data-id="1538499" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-1538499" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="2" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(221, 221, 221) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(221, 221, 221) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;">To a place I recall, I was there so long ago</a><a annotation-fragment="3085231" class="referent referent--yellow" classification="accepted" data-id="3085231" href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics#note-3085231" image="false" ng-class="{ 'referent--linked_to_preview': song_ctrl.referent_has_preview(fragment_id), 'referent--linked_to_preview_active': song_ctrl.highlight_preview_referent(fragment_element_id), 'referent--purple_indicator': song_ctrl.show_preview_referent_indicator(fragment_element_id) }" ng-click="open()" pending-editorial-actions-count="1" prevent-default-click="" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; border: 0px; box-shadow: rgb(221, 221, 221) 0.01em 0px 0px, rgb(221, 221, 221) -0.01em 0px 0px; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; line-height: 1.7em; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; padding: 0.2em 0px; position: relative; text-decoration-line: none; transition: all 0.1s ease 0s, all 0.1s ease 0s; word-break: break-word;">The sky was bruised, the wine was bled, and there you led me on</a></span></span></blockquote>
But that's <a href="https://genius.com/Audioslave-like-a-stone-lyrics">another song</a>.<br />
Or is it?<br />
<br />
Chris Cornell and Roger Waters may be praying to the same You that they wish were here, and that they hope they meet there.<br />
<br />
Roger's skies in "Wish" were pain-blue, and Chris' in the song above were bruised<br />
But <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Song_Remains_the_Same_(film)">the song.</a>..and the Canopy Maker..remain the same.<br />
<a href="https://biblehub.com/2_samuel/22-12.htm">Even the Good Book darkness-skies are God's canopy.</a><br />
And the Floyd song..like all of them.. is dark.<br />
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But the canopy is there...even if appearing bruised.<br />
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I challenged Stacy to post a few reasons...any reason ..why she likes this song.<br />
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I can't wait to hear. She many even know things about the song I don't..and I have been tracking it for 45 years or so, I bet she even knows about the often-unnoticed (<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=wish+you+wrete+here+rado+cough&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS892US892&oq=wish+you+wrete+here+rado+cough&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.10886j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8">and much-debated </a>) throat-clearing cough towards the beginning that I always hears as a guy waking up and turning on the radio to hear this song, and eventually play along to it.<br />
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And that man has been me ever since.<br />
<br />
To cough is to pray.<br />
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My reasons for liking the song are many.<br />
And some were formed before Stacy was born.<br />
But I don't even know if I can use the word "like."<br />
<br />
<ul>
<li>Or love.</li>
<li>Or "hate"</li>
<li>Or "love."</li>
<li>Or love/hate.</li>
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Though they all work.<br />
<br />
Maybe the word I need is "need."<br />
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I mean, we all need help putting words to our prayers at times.<br />
Even, especially when the prayer ...as written...doesn't seem to be getting through..<br />
<br />
And this song was an integral part of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevenient_grace#:~:text=Prevenient%20grace%20(or%20enabling%20grace,certain%20point%20in%20his%20lifetime.">prevenient-grace</a> mixtape that led me to Jesus (tied with <a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/04/peter-gabriel-cross-workedand-suppers.html">this 24-minute hymn</a> from the Book Of Genesis--I mean, Band of Genesis ), and part of the strange and <a href="https://davewainscott.blogspot.com/p/about-name.html">heteroclite</a> canon/cannon of l<a href="https://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2020/02/psalms-of-lament-and-imprecation-as.html">aments and imprecations</a> that keep me tethered to this Jesus.<br />
<br />
Stacy, I might not know you..or Jesus..without this song!<br />
(Do I <a href="https://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/04/do-i-love-or-know-jesus.html">love or know Jesus?</a>)<br />
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And this blog post is also serving a public challenge to Stacy to write more; even blog. Her social media posts can be stunningly moving. My post today may only be so to me, but I dedicate it to her.<br />
<br />
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This song.<br />
Where to start?</div>
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If by some tragic circumstance you have never encountered this song, may I counterintuitively (Why not go the <a href="https://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/09/sts-sudzi-and-tim-pushing-tward.html">unobvious </a>route?) suggest you sample this version filmed in my favorite city, as the song is sensitively interpreted performed by two Jewish men. If I had been there, and stumbled upon this scene, I would've probably been so transfixed that I'd be transfigured..or still there. To me, another Jewish Man is always active in the music of streets of That City.<br />
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See you after the break.</div>
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Original version. </div>
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When this song came out, and my friends and I first heard it cranked loud on Dan's huge JBL speakers: </div>
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no words.</div>
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But let me try several.<br />
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I mean, if <a href="https://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/05/how-can-i-be-spokemen-when-all-ive-gpt.html">I can't at least occasionally articulate</a> the "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inarticulate_Speech_of_the_Heart">inarticulate speech of the heart</a>" about one of my top ten "Godhaunted songs" (Hi Happy Lee, your song is next)</div>
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As most Floydfans know, the album this is found on, and this song, is partly/largely about/addressed to former band member Syd Barrett,<br />
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As is much (all?) of their material.<br />
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Barrett had left the band/been forced out due to his drug-induced mental ilness, The band tells this chilling story</div>
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<span style="background-color: #fce8b2;"><a href="https://ultimateclassicrock.com/tags/syd-barrett/" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; color: #667763; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;">Syd Barrett</a>'s tortured spirit was already hovering over <a href="https://ultimateclassicrock.com/tags/pink-floyd/" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; color: #667763; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;">Pink Floyd</a>'s ninth studio album, even before he unexpectedly crashed the sessions for <a href="https://ultimateclassicrock.com/pink-floyd-wish-you-were-here/" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; color: #667763; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><em style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box;">Wish You Were Here</em></a> on June 5, 1975.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: #fce8b2;">Both the emotive title track and shimmering, psychedelic epic "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" were inspired by Barrett, the band's former frontman, with chief writer <a href="https://ultimateclassicrock.com/tags/roger-waters/" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; color: #667763; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;">Roger Waters</a> meditating on themes of isolation and inward escape. So, when the long-absent musician – portly, with distant gaze, shaved head and eyebrows – randomly arrived during a mixing session for "Diamond," the coincidence reduced the band to a mixture of shock and depression.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: #fce8b2;">It's not as if Barrett, Floyd's co-founder and the driving creative force behind their debut LP, 1967's <a href="https://ultimateclassicrock.com/pink-floyd-debut-the-piper-at-the-gates-of-dawn-turns-45/" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; color: #667763; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;"><em style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box;">The Piper at the Gates of Dawn</em></a>, left the band on good terms. His mental instability, erratic stage behavior and addiction to LSD made him a liability, and guitarist-singer <a href="https://ultimateclassicrock.com/tags/david-gilmour/" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; color: #667763; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;">David Gilmour</a> was brought in as a replacement.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: #fce8b2;">....Pink Floyd were confused by his presence, assuming he had to be a crew member. But when Gilmour eventually identified their former bandmate, Waters broke down in tears. That June day also happened to be Gilmour's wedding day, so Barrett wandered into the guitarist's wedding reception at EMI. He left without telling anyone, disappearing as strangely as he'd arrived. The experience had a profound impact on the band, particularly Waters, who even incorporated a lyrical reference to the early Barrett-penned single "See Emily Play" on <em style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box;">Wish You Were Here</em>.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: #fce8b2;">"I'm very sad about Syd, [though] I wasn't for years," Waters said <a href="http://www.ingsoc.com/waters/albums/wywh/articles/wywh_roger.html" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; color: #667763; outline: 0px; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">in 1975</a>. "For years, I suppose he was a threat because of all that bollocks written about him and us. Of course, he was very important and the band would never have f_____ started without him, because he was writing all the material. It couldn't have happened without him, but on the other hand, it couldn't have gone on <em style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box;">with</em> him. He may or may not be important in rock 'n' roll anthology terms, but he's certainly not nearly as important as people say in terms of Pink Floyd. So, I think I was threatened by him."</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: #fce8b2;">Gilmour, who co-wrote the music to both the title track and "Shine On," has trouble separating these classic songs from his memories of the former Floyd icon. "Although 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' is specifically about Syd and 'Wish You Were Here' has a broader remit," Gilmour said in the 2012 documentary <em style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box;">Pink Floyd: The Story of Wish You Were Here,</em> "I can't sing it without thinking about Syd."</span></div>
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Finally, now you are primed to read the lyrics, and weigh who they addressed/redressed to? Who is your Syd?</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>
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You can "never again sing it without thinking about" your "randomly arrived" Syd.<br />
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<span jsname="YS01Ge">So, so you think you can tell</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">Heaven from hell</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">Blue skies from pain</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">Can you tell a green field</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">From a cold steel rail?</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">A smile from a veil?</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">Do you think you can tell?</span></div>
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<span jsname="YS01Ge">Did they get you to trade</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">Your heroes for ghosts?</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">Hot ashes for trees?</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">Hot air for a cool breeze?</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">Cold comfort for change?</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">Did you exchange</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">A walk on part in the war</span><br />
<span jsname="YS01Ge">For a lead role in a cage?</span></div>
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<span jsname="YS01Ge">How I wish, how I wish you were here</span></div>
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<span jsname="YS01Ge">We're just two lost souls</span></div>
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<span jsname="YS01Ge">Swimming in a fish bowl</span></div>
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<span jsname="YS01Ge">Year after year</span></div>
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<span jsname="YS01Ge">Running over the same old ground</span></div>
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<span jsname="YS01Ge">What have we found?</span></div>
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<span jsname="YS01Ge">The same old fears</span></div>
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<span jsname="YS01Ge">Wish you were here....</span></div>
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From Song Facts:</div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">This song is about the detached feeling most people go through life with. It is a commentary on how people cope with the world by withdrawing physically, mentally, or emotionally. In the commentary of <span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">The Wall</span>, Roger Waters states that the inspiration was Pink Floyd founding member Syd Barrett and his ordeal with schizophrenia.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">Roger Waters has said this song was based on a poem he wrote about Syd Barrett's fall from reality. It was said that Syd's friends would lace his coffee with LSD, which eventually lead to his mental breakdown. <a class="trigger-credits" data-creditid="9899" href="https://www.songfacts.com/facts/pink-floyd/wish-you-were-here#" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #ff6600; outline: none; text-decoration-line: none;">>></a></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">This was a rare case of the Pink Floyd primary songwriters Roger Waters and David Gilmour mutually collaborating on a song - they rarely wrote together. Gilmour had the opening riff written and was playing it in the studio at a fast pace when Roger Waters heard it and asked him to play it slower. The song built from there, with the pair writing the music for the chorus and verses together, and Waters adding the lyrics.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">The song reflected the feeling of the band while they were recording the album. Waters felt they were not putting a full effort into the recording sessions.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">When this song starts, it sounds like it is coming from an AM radio somewhere in the distance. It represents the distance between the listener and the music.</span></div>
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<a href="https://www.songfacts.com/facts/pink-floyd/wish-you-were-here">Link</a></div>
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Perhaps the most important part and punch of the lyric is the ellipsis; hemistiche, at the end..<br />
Will the wished-for "you/"You" ever be here?<br />
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Who or what is "you"?<br />
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Roger Waters has left this open to interpretation, but in various interviews over the years has seen it as<br />
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Syd</li>
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his bandmates</li>
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and a fascinating and compelling candidate that only hit him later in life;<br />
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himself.<br />
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<a href="https://genius.com/The-cure-lost-lyrics">The Cure</a> can relate.<br />
And so can you.</div>
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And <a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/09/sts-sudzi-and-tim-pushing-tward.html?m=0">Sudzi</a>.</div>
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I also dare to believe, even if Waters doesn't believe or admit it..<br />
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The You is also<br />
partly<br />
partially God.<br />
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Of course at some points in the lyric that You doesn't make sense (God a fearful lost soul..<br />
OR DOES IT?<br />
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But<br />
The You is also<br />
partly<br />
partially<br />
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Every You in every song eventually is.</div>
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Every wish ultimately is for the hereness and nearness of One who doesn't seem here.</div>
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Why can't the onmipresence be manifest?<br />
<br />
As I once preached from Psalm 22:<a href="https://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2006/04/lord-be-with-youeven-when-_114598388742647398.html"><br />
"The Lord Be With You...Even When He's Not</a>."<br />
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But knowing Floyd, if it is a prayer..</div>
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atheism, cynicism and nihilism often win..<br />
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"There is no dark side of the moon really. As a matter of fact it's all dark," </div>
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"Is there anybody out there?" they once prayed.</div>
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The expected answer is no.<br />
<br />
Same with the chilling first set of questions in "Wish".<br />
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<i><span jsname="YS01Ge" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">So, so you think you can tell</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" /><span jsname="YS01Ge" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Heaven from hell?</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" /><span jsname="YS01Ge" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Blue skies from pain?</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" /><span jsname="YS01Ge" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Can you tell a green field</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" /><span jsname="YS01Ge" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">From a cold steel rail?</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" /><span jsname="YS01Ge" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">A smile from a veil?</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" /><span jsname="YS01Ge" style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Do you think you can tell?</span></i><br />
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They are not essay answers.<br />
One senses they are multiple choice<br />
A"Yes"<br />
or<br />
B"Hell, no."<br />
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B being "right".<br />
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But I'm opting for a C: " Both A and B .<br />
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Sometimes fuzzy sets are the only <iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/8hdMNbTgrZ4" width="560"></iframe></div>
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way to pray.<br />
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophatic_theology">Apophatic </a>is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphatic_theology#:~:text=Cataphatic%20theology%20or%20kataphatic%20theology,to%20indicate%20what%20it%20is">cataphatic.</a><br />
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It's often more classically encouraging to hear U2's Bono (Who gives us permission and a decoder to "<a href="https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS892US892&sxsrf=ALeKk00ko09QphVraK7a01v5GtXwLXFFog%3A1593223790240&ei=bqr2XvWcDtTB0PEPjfSgyAo&q=turn+each+song+into+a+prayer++lyric+U2&oq=turn+each+song+into+a+prayer++lyric+U2&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCCEQoAE6BAgAEEc6BwghEAoQoAE6BQghEKsCUPo3WOdZYPhcaAFwAXgAgAHzAYgBjAySAQUxLjguMpgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXo&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwj1i8KQ9aDqAhXUIDQIHQ06CKkQ4dUDCAw&uact=5">Turn each song into a prayer</a>") ask the biblical question "How long?'' since we know the question has a deadline, and is not a dead end.</div>
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Maybe Pink Floyd is asking the same question, but from the dark side of the faith.</div>
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<br style="background-color: #fefdfa; color: #333333; font-family: arial, tahoma, helvetica, freesans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" />
<span style="background-color: #fefdfa; color: #333333; font-family: arial, tahoma, helvetica, freesans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Such is the <a href="https://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2008/03/most-listenable-unlistenable-album-ever.html">hardwon faith that does not bypass lament.</a></span><br />
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<br />
U2's Dead Man might even <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=U2+wake+upo+dad+man&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS892US892&oq=U2+wake+upo+dad+man+&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.7525j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8">Wake Up</a>.<br />
'<br />
Floyd's deity might remain dead.<br />
<br />
But thank God that God is bigger than <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorial_intent#:~:text=In%20literary%20theory%20and%20aesthetics,which%20it%20is%20properly%20interpreted.">authorial intent.</a></div>
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(And bigger than the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK72_--ZsM4">Boogie Man</a> and the <a href="https://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2006/12/devil-is-gods-devil.html">devil</a>, for that matter.)</div><div><br /></div><div><div style="background-color: white;">Waters also may well have meant this as not just about TO or ABOUT Syd, but</div><div style="background-color: white;"> FROM Syd, how HE felt towards</div><div style="background-color: white;">the band (or himself..or God)</div>
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I was not yet a committed Christian when I first heard this song; I don't know what you would have called me when the pictured guys (I'm the one in the T shirt, And obviously, there is one non-guy with us, but she wasn't part of our gang) in this Upstate New York circle of friends first experienced it.<br />
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I felt it/heard it as my lonely being awakened,<br />
It was addressed to myself</div>
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to my friends </div>
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to Syd</div>
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to a partner I hadn't met yet<br />
and to an unknown God that I somehow knew.</div>
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I am intrigued that Waters tended to picture the "two lost souls in a fishbowl" as</div>
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two fish, but each in a separate bowl (this is perhaps authenticated by cover art on a later single version).</div>
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I hadn't felt it that way.</div>
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Being two lost souls in the same bowl was lonely enough. </div>
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But at least the two were in it together.</div>
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Terrifying to be trapped in a bowl alone, able to see your soulmate in an adjacent bowl.</div>
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Year after year.</div>
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Covid quarantine, indeed<br />
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But until we admit we often live this hellonearth in our "there" ("Can you tell heaven from hell?."...<br />
We may never experience God as here.<br />
<br />
Wish you were here,</div>
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<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li>Syd</li>
<li>friends</li>
<li>enemies</li>
<li>Dave</li>
<li>God</li>
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It's all in how you read it,<br />
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<b>PS Maybe just watch this guy in video. He's crazy, but he may weel say most of what I just tried to sat better than I just did!:
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<i>Other Pink Floyd posts <u><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rA59LV-ZKc">here.</a></u></i></div>
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<i>See related ed "labels" (keyword "topix ) below</i><br />
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davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-41118464709975658842020-04-19T19:52:00.002-07:002020-04-19T19:56:21.066-07:00"How does your faith interact with your music?"<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<strong><span style="font-size: large;">How does your faith interact with your music?</span></strong></div>
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<span style="font-size: large;">Eric Campuzano: </span></div>
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<span style="font-size: large;">"It does not interact;</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: large;"> it </span><i style="font-size: x-large;">i<b>s</b></i><span style="font-size: large;"> my music."</span></div>
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<i><a href="https://somewherecold.net/2001/09/02/eric-campuzano/">Link</a>, full interview</i><br />
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<i>Other Prayer Chain-related posts <a href="https://davewainscott.blogspot.com/search?q=prayer+chain">here</a></i></div>
davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-60636140211996616712020-02-05T17:27:00.000-08:002020-02-05T17:27:18.955-08:00Psalms of Lament and Imprecation as Authentic Worship<iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ppyr7XqPYn0" width="560"></iframe>davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-7441129077497816682020-01-30T16:01:00.002-08:002020-01-30T16:01:46.526-08:00Timelines<span style="background-color: #fefdfa; color: #333333; font-family: georgia, "times new roman", serif; font-size: 13px;">It has been hugely productive, </span><span style="background-color: #fefdfa; color: #333333; font-family: georgia, "times new roman", serif; font-size: 13px;">revelatory, </span><span style="background-color: #fefdfa; color: #333333; font-family: georgia, "times new roman", serif; font-size: 13px;">and (even) fun</span><span style="background-color: #fefdfa; color: #333333; font-family: georgia, "times new roman", serif; font-size: 13px;"> to, as part of a class that several others and I teach, have students plot out (on the whiteboard) their timeline.</span><br />
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Can I fly?<br />
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Can I win every game and pass every test?<br />
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Philippians 4:10 says I can do all things through Christ, right?<br />
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No, that's just "the American dream on steroids," as <a href="https://endangeredminds.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/out-of-context-philippians-413-can-i-do-all-things-through-christ/">Kyle Hatfield </a>concludes.<br />
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And as Inigo Montoya concludes:<br />
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<span style="font-size: xx-small;">(Well, n<i>ext to the infamous "God will never give you more than you can handle"</i></span><br />
<i><span style="font-size: xx-small;"> trope that people think is in the Bible, but isn't. See </span></i><span style="color: #4229d5; font-family: "georgia" , "utopia" , "palatino linotype" , "palatino" , serif; font-size: xx-small; font-style: italic;">"<a href="https://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2013/01/god-will-always-give-you-more-than-you.html">God will ALWAYS give you more than you can handle"</a></span><i style="color: #4229d5; font-family: Georgia, Utopia, "Palatino Linotype", Palatino, serif;"><span style="font-size: xx-small;">),</span></i><br />
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Reading in context (and contexture) easily solves the obvious problem of the verse "not working":<br />
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1. Note the context. The verse is framed (before and after) with an inclusio about the offering the Philippians have taken for Paul, and how other churches not taking one, and both being OK.<br />
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2)The whole topic is clearly learning to be content (financially) no matter the circumstance (even when people don't support hum financially). Nothing even close to a motivational "I can pass this hard test".<br />
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3)Grammatically and logically, the "I can do all things" is connected to "being content." So much so that some translations style it "I can do all <b>these things</b> through Christ."( <a href="https://biblehub.com/philippians/4-13.htm"><span style="background-color: white; color: #0092f2; font-family: "roboto" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: x-small; font-weight: 700;">Douay-Rheims Bible</span>)</a> ,What things? Being content/ Not all things...but all things related to be content..even when I'm poor or starving.<br />
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Isn't the way almost everyone interprets this verse almost the exact opposite of what it says/means.<br />
Even when i DON'T win the game, pass the test, I can still be content..even though there are things I <b>CAN'T </b>DO......???<br />
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<span style="font-size: x-small;">The New (2011) NIV Translation nails it by just deleting two letters from </span><span style="color: red; font-size: x-small;">THI</span><span style="color: blue; font-size: x-small;">NG</span><span style="color: red; font-size: x-small;">S"</span><span style="font-size: x-small;">...IT'S NOW "</span><span style="color: red; font-size: x-large;">THIS</span><span style="font-size: x-small;">".</span><br />
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<span class="text Phil-4-10" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: x-small;"><span class="versenum" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: "arial"; font-weight: bold; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;">Philippians 4:10 </span><span style="color: blue;">I rejoiced greatly in the Lord that at last you renewed your concern for me.<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29453N" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29453N" title="See cross-reference N">N</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span> Indeed, you were concerned, but you had no opportunity to show it.</span></span><span style="color: blue;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"> </span><span class="text Phil-4-11" id="en-NIV-29454" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: x-small;"><span class="versenum" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: "arial"; font-weight: bold; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;">11 </span>I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29454O" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29454O" title="See cross-reference O">O</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span> whatever the circumstances.</span><span style="font-size: x-small;"> </span></span><span class="text Phil-4-12" id="en-NIV-29455" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: x-small;"><span style="color: blue;"><span class="versenum" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: "arial"; font-weight: bold; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;">12 </span>I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry,<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29455P" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29455P" title="See cross-reference P">P</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span> whether living in plenty or in want.</span><span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29455Q" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29455Q" title="See cross-reference Q">Q</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span></span><span style="font-size: x-small;"> </span><span class="text Phil-4-13" id="en-NIV-29456" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="versenum" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: "arial"; font-size: x-small; font-weight: bold; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;">13 </span><span style="color: red; font-size: x-small;">I can do all </span><span style="font-size: x-large;"><span style="color: yellow;">this</span> </span><span style="color: red; font-size: x-small;">through him who gives me strength.</span><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29456R" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29456R" title="See cross-reference R">R</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: x-small;"><span class="text Phil-4-14" id="en-NIV-29457" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="versenum" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: "arial"; font-weight: bold; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;">14 </span><span style="color: blue;">Yet it was good of you to share<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29457S" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29457S" title="See cross-reference S">S</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span> in my troubles.</span></span><span style="color: blue;"> <span class="text Phil-4-15" id="en-NIV-29458" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="versenum" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: "arial"; font-weight: bold; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;">15 </span>Moreover, as you Philippians know, in the early days<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29458T" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29458T" title="See cross-reference T">T</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span> of your acquaintance with the gospel, when I set out from Macedonia,<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29458U" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29458U" title="See cross-reference U">U</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span> not one church shared with me in the matter of giving and receiving, except you only;<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29458V" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29458V" title="See cross-reference V">V</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span></span> <span class="text Phil-4-16" id="en-NIV-29459" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="versenum" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: "arial"; font-weight: bold; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;">16 </span>for even when I was in Thessalonica,<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29459W" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29459W" title="See cross-reference W">W</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span> you sent me aid more than once when I was in need.<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29459X" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29459X" title="See cross-reference X">X</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span></span> <span class="text Phil-4-17" id="en-NIV-29460" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="versenum" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: "arial"; font-weight: bold; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;">17 </span>Not that I desire your gifts; what I desire is that more be credited to your account.<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29460Y" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29460Y" title="See cross-reference Y">Y</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span></span> <span class="text Phil-4-18" id="en-NIV-29461" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="versenum" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: "arial"; font-weight: bold; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;">18 </span>I have received full payment and have more than enough. I am amply supplied, now that I have received from Epaphroditus<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29461Z" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29461Z" title="See cross-reference Z">Z</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span> the gifts you sent. They are a fragrant<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29461AA" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29461AA" title="See cross-reference AA">AA</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span> offering, an acceptable sacrifice, pleasing to God.</span> <span class="text Phil-4-19" id="en-NIV-29462" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="versenum" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: "arial"; font-weight: bold; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;">19 </span>And my God will meet all your needs<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29462AB" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29462AB" title="See cross-reference AB">AB</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span> according to the riches of his glory<span class="crossreference" data-cr="#cen-NIV-29462AC" data-link="(<a href="#cen-NIV-29462AC" title="See cross-reference AC">AC</a>)" style="box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 22px; position: relative; top: 0px; vertical-align: top;"></span> in Christ Jesus.</span></span></span></div>
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For some good links on this, see <a href="https://endangeredminds.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/out-of-context-philippians-413-can-i-do-all-things-through-christ/" ping="/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://endangeredminds.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/out-of-context-philippians-413-can-i-do-all-things-through-christ/&ved=2ahUKEwjdoLX-_7_kAhXBv54KHUG5BboQFjADegQIABAB" style="color: #660099; cursor: pointer; font-family: roboto, arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"></a></div>
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<li><span style="font-size: x-small;"><a href="https://endangeredminds.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/out-of-context-philippians-413-can-i-do-all-things-through-christ/">Out of Context: Philippians 4:13 – Can I do all things</a>?</span></li>
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<span style="font-size: x-small;"><b>and Craig Keener:</b></span></div>
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<span class="dropcap" style="background-color: white; border: 0px; float: left; font-family: "georgia" , serif; font-size: 5.25em; font-stretch: normal; line-height: 0.857em; margin: 0px 10px 0px 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;" title="A">A</span><span style="background-color: orange;">football player at a Christian college approached his Bible professor, greatly troubled. His coach had encouraged the team that they could “do all things through Christ who strengthens” them, citing Philippians 4:13. Yet the team had lost a few games, and the student was unable to fathom why his team was not always winning, since they “could do all things through Christ.” The problem, of course, is not with the text, but with the view that the player and apparently his coach had read into the verse. The football player was assuming that Paul had in view matters like winning football games.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: orange;">Thanking the Philippians for sending him a love-gift (4:10, 14), Paul noted that he had learned contentment with both little and with much (4:12); he could do all things through Christ (4:13). In this context, he is saying that by Christ’s strength he could rejoice whether he had much or little. Today we should learn to rejoice in whatever our situation, knowing that Christ strengthens us to endure: whether persecution, ridicule, or even losing a football game. <a href="https://www.craigkeener.com/i-can-do-all-things-through-christ-%E2%80%94-philippians-413/">link</a></span></div>
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<i><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span class="text Phil-4-20" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; box-sizing: border-box;"><span style="font-family: "alegreya" , serif;">Also,<a href="https://athletesinaction.org/underreview/why-philipians-4-13-does-not-mean-what-you-think#.XXRRFChKjIU">Monty Waldron</a> writes for Athletes in Action: "</span></span><span style="font-family: "alegreya" , serif;">Paul’s words are handled almost superstitiously—a spiritual rabbit’s foot—inscribed on skin or apparel with hopes of Divine favor. With the best of intentions, this phrase is rehearsed as an assurance of God’s enablement for personal pursuits..</span><span style="font-family: "alegreya" , serif;">If this is a favorite of yours, hang with me—i<b>ts meaning is actually better than most athletes realize." </b></span></span></i><br />
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<i><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-family: "alegreya" , serif;"><b>Oh, and Tim Tebow doesn't have verseitis:</b></span></span></i><br />
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<span style="color: #aaaaaa; font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #333333;">"A lot of people know </span><a href="http://biblia.com/bible/hcsb/Phil%204.13" style="color: #6ca9d5; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Philippians 4:13</a></span><span style="color: #333333;"><span style="font-size: medium;"> -- 'I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me' -- but a lot of people don't interpret that verse the right way. Most people think it means I can do anything ...on the football field, or I can make a lot of money. But that's not exactly what it's talking about there. It's [saying] I can be content with anything."-<a href="http://www.reenactingtheway.com/blog/philippians-4-13-all-things-through-christ-who-strengthens-me">Tim Tebow, see </a></span></span><br />
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Of course, don't get me started. On related matters;<br />
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<li style="border: none; margin: 0px 0px 0.25em; padding: 0.25em 0px;"><a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2013/10/little-evangelical-kids-singing-r-rated.html" style="color: #4229d5; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; line-height: normal; text-decoration-line: none;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">little evangelical kids singing R-rated lyrics in Sunday School: "and his banner over me is love"</span></a></li>
<li style="border: none; color: #333333; margin: 0px 0px 0.25em; padding: 0.25em 0px;"><a class="gs-title" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/12/i-am-in-sin-if-i-avoid-appearance-of.html" style="color: #4229d5; cursor: pointer; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; height: 1.4em; line-height: 1.5em; overflow: hidden; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><span style="color: #d56529;">I am</span><i><span style="color: red;"> in sin</span></i><span style="color: #d56529;"> if I "avoid the </span><b style="color: #d56529;">appearance of</b><span style="color: #d56529;"> evil"</span></a></li>
<li style="border: none; color: #333333; margin: 0px 0px 0.25em; padding: 0.25em 0px;"><a class="gs-title" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/01/wwjp-why-would-jesus-puke-lets-be-hot.html" style="color: #d56529; cursor: pointer; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; height: 1.4em; line-height: 19.5px; overflow: hidden; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">Why Would Jesus Puke?: let's be <b>hot</b> AND <b>cold</b>, as Jesus wants</a></li>
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<li style="border: none; color: #333333; margin: 0px 0px 0.25em; padding: 0.25em 0px;"><a class="gs-title" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2010/05/lords-prayer-does-not-say-daily.html" style="color: #d56529; cursor: pointer; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; height: 1.4em; line-height: 19.5px; overflow: hidden; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">The "Lord's Prayer" does NOT say "daily bread ...</a></li>
<li style="border: none; color: #333333; margin: 0px 0px 0.25em; padding: 0.25em 0px;"><a class="gs-title" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2013/01/god-will-always-give-you-more-than-you.html" style="color: #d56529; cursor: pointer; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; height: 1.4em; line-height: 19.5px; overflow: hidden; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">God will ALWAYS give you <b>more than you can</b> handle</a></li>
<li style="border: none; color: #333333; margin: 0px 0px 0.25em; padding: 0.25em 0px;"><a class="gs-title" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2009/05/of-course-christians-will-be-left.html" style="color: #d56529; cursor: pointer; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; height: 1.4em; line-height: 19.5px; overflow: hidden; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"> </a><a class="gs-title" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2009/05/of-course-christians-will-be-left.html" style="color: #d56529; cursor: pointer; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; height: 1.4em; line-height: 19.5px; overflow: hidden; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank">of course Christians will be <b>left behind</b></a></li>
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #181818; font-family: "merriweather" , "georgia" , serif; font-size: 14px;">From a review of a great book ("Orbiting the Giant Hairball"):<br /><br /></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">One thing MacKenzie loved to do was to speak to school groups. He’d spend the day going into all the different classes starting with the kindergarten in the morning and ending with the sixth graders in the afternoon.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">He started the same way with all the groups. He said</span><br style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">“Look, I’m an artist and I love to be around other artists. I look at your walls and you’ve got art on them so there must be artists here. Anybody an artist?”</span><br style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">In the kindergarten everybody in the class is raising both hands in the air, jumping about all excited saying</span><br style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">“Yeah, Yeah! I’m an artist! I’m an artist!”</span><br style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">They’re not just an artist, they’re an enthusiastic artist!</span><br style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">By the first grade, still every hand is up, not so much dancing around, not as many double hand raises but everybody is still an artist.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">You get to the second grade and that’s where the first bit of attrition occurs – not every single child raised their hand. Then it progressed. He would get two or three people raising their hands starting in the fourth grade, a pretty pivotal moment in terms of identifying as creative.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">By sixth grade when the children are old enough to understand this, the couple of people raising their hands are nervously looking round to see if they’re going to be judged by their peers.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">It’s not just a fear of failure, it’s a fear of being judged. Creativity is as much about the ability to come up with ideas as it is about the courage to act on those ideas – Creative Confidence.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">So Gordon Mackenzie asked the sixth graders</span><br style="background-color: white; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #181818; font-family: "merriweather" , "georgia" , serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84); font-family: medium-content-serif-font, Georgia, Cambria, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: -0.063px;">“Hey! What happened to all the artists in this school? Did all the artists transfer out? Did all the artists go to art school? I don’t think so. I think something much worse. I think someone or something has told you it’s not OK to be an artist. If you don’t remember anything else I say today I want you to go home and remember it’s OK to by an artist.” <a href="https://medium.com/@PaintyUK/he-asked-them-anybody-an-artist-their-answer-will-challenge-your-thinking-a38d2194c53e">link</a></span></span><br />
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I am so glad <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Letter-Philemon-International-Commentary-Testament/dp/0802873820/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1508544447&sr=1-1&linkCode=sl1&tag=jesuscreed20-20&linkId=6d40b60fbb7795182fc400e75ed0925d">Scot McKnight's commentary on Philemon</a> is out.</div>
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This is such good news that I feel like doing this:</div>
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McKnight inaugurated the release with a helpful post:</div>
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<span style="font-family: "open sans condensed" , sans-serif; font-size: 48px; letter-spacing: -1px;"><a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jesuscreed/2017/10/23/10-reasons-church-needs-philemon/#zfEZ8zqMakB3gJUp.99">10 Reasons Your Church Needs Philemon</a></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">9: <strong style="box-sizing: border-box;">An example of how to read a book in the Bible</strong>.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">Philemon can be used to help people learn how to read a whole Bible book. Move then to a letter of John or to Jude or then to a shorter book like Philippians or Galatians then finally to Romans and Corinthians. Perhaps then on to a Gospel.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">Reading each line in light of the whole book is possible for Philemon and it’s a good starting point for inductive Bible study methods. Also for historical context (study Roman slavery) and also for Paul’s house church movement of how they learned to live as Christians in an old institution: the house, the home, the family. <a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jesuscreed/2017/10/23/10-reasons-church-needs-philemon/#GblKSzFswQ0g116K.99">link</a></span><br />
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Bonus: video of him at Asbury (amazing school, my MDiv)</div>
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<a href="https://vimeo.com/208551972">"The Challenge to Philemon" - Dr. Scot McKnight</a> from <a href="https://vimeo.com/blfisherlibrary">B.L. Fisher Library</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com/">Vimeo</a>.<br />
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davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-75175325475822302332017-10-19T13:32:00.000-07:002017-10-19T13:37:05.712-07:00"the mystique of superiority that came as a consolation prize"<table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="color: #4229d5; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"><tbody>
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<i><span style="color: black; font-size: small; font-weight: normal;">"I believed myself above him simply on the basis of my Upper East Side address; like most New Yorkers, I had bought into</span></i><br />
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-Deborah Feldman, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Exodus-Memoir-Deborah-Feldman/dp/0142181854">Exodus</a>, p. 201</div>
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From the Amazon blurb on this book:</div>
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<i><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;">The author of the explosive </span><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;">New York Times</span><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;">-bestselling memoir </span><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Unorthodox</span><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;"> chronicles her continuing journey as a single mother, an independent woman, and a religious refugee.</span><br style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" /><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;"> </span></i><br />
<i><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;">In 2009, at the age of twenty-three, Deborah Feldman walked away from the rampant oppression, abuse, and isolation of her Satmar upbringing in Williamsburg, Brooklyn to forge a better life for herself and her young son. Since leaving, Feldman has</span></i><br />
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<i><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;"> navigated remarkable experiences: raising her son in the “real” world, finding solace and solitude in a writing career, and searching for love. Culminating in an unforgettable trip across Europe to retrace her grandmother’s life during the Holocaust, </span><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;">Exodus </span><span style="background-color: white; color: #333333; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-weight: normal;">is a deeply moving exploration of the mysterious bonds that tie us to family and religion, the bonds we must sometimes break to find our true selves. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Exodus-Memoir-Deborah-Feldman/dp/0142181854">link</a></span></i></div>
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<a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2014/04/signs-of-kingdom-life-in-godhaunted-nyc.html">signs of Kingdom life in Godhaunted NYC? please add comments</a></h3>
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<a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2012/02/theology-of-new-york-city.html">theology of New York City</a></h3>
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<a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2006/05/bad-day-for-jesus-on-upper-west-side.html">Bad Day For Jesus on the Upper West Side</a></h3>
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davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-36248465648654709242017-10-11T14:56:00.001-07:002017-10-11T14:56:55.130-07:00violins with a jewel-shaped heart <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left; margin-right: 1em; text-align: left;"><tbody>
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<span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Exchange SSm 4r", ExchangeWeb-Roman, Georgia, serif; font-size: 18px;">One way to look at string theory is that everything is made of vibrating strings/ music.</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Exchange SSm 4r", ExchangeWeb-Roman, Georgia, serif; font-size: 18px;">And now...what if we found that a jewel was at the heart of it all?</span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Exchange SSm 4r", ExchangeWeb-Roman, Georgia, serif; font-size: 18px;">"<i>The <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=amplituhedron&oq=amplituhedron&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.600j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8">amplituhedron</a> looks like an intricate, multifaceted jewel in higher dimensions."</i></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: white; font-family: "Exchange SSm 4r", ExchangeWeb-Roman, Georgia, serif; font-size: 18px;">See:</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><a href="https://www.wired.com/2013/12/amplituhedron-jewel-quantum-physics/?mbid=social_fb_onsiteshare">SCIENTISTS DISCOVER A JEWEL AT THE HEART OF QUANTUM PHYSICS</a></span></h1>
davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-70888949349093593332017-10-11T14:33:00.004-07:002018-11-10T20:43:29.295-08:00I hope U2 is not in a "finishing mood"<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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U2 apologizes too often that they needed more time to finish the "Pop" album.<br />
But they needed less time, not more.<br />
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Some of the best U2stuff floating around the interwebs are early demos/versions before they got too polished/"finished."<br />
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I wish they would take some advice from <a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2011/07/bono-acting-all-evangelical-at.html">their friend Charlie</a>,<br />
who sang "I'm not in a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVPl6Q-7mY8">finishing moo</a>d." (I'm glad Charlie never "finished" that song).<br />
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On the atu2 forum,"an tha" <a href="https://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,29545.0.html">says</a>, "I am 100% certain in my belief that the minute and half or so of mofo on that video {first video below} is the greatest bit of recorded u2 available anywhere ever!"<br />
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<span style="background-color: #e7eaef; font-family: "verdana" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 12.48px;"> I've always wondered what exactly U2 meant when they were talking about finishing Pop. Like Larry saying, "If we had two or three more months to work, we would have had a very different record. I would like someday to rework those songs and give them the attention and time that they deserve." How different would Pop have sounded if the band had been given another couple of months to "finish" things? I don't see why U2 looks down on this fantastic record so much, it's easily one of their very best albums and it certainly is one of the greatest I've ever listened to. Perhaps it's because of poor sales and the mixed reception, so the band claims that the finished product is... Not finished.</span><br />
<span style="background-color: #e7eaef; font-family: "verdana" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 12.48px;"> If you read up on it, that claim could be justified as being true. The album was being worked on until the very last moment. According to Wikipedia, the chorus to Last Night On Earth wasn't even written until the night before the album's release. Edge was also still recording back-up vocals, Howie B. was still adding effects to Discotheque, and there was no definitive version of Mofo. Additionally, Larry's back was injured for months, forcing the band to work on the songs without his assistance. Maybe U2 did work on a tight schedule, but Paul McGuiness still believes that there was plenty of time to finish Pop. First it was scheduled for a late-1996 release before being pushed back until March 1997, giving plenty of extra time to finalize things. From mid-1995 (when the band first began working on Pop) until March 1997, U2 had around 20 months to create the album. It seems like time was not the issue.</span><br />
<span style="background-color: #e7eaef; font-family: "verdana" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 12.48px;"> It seems as if U2 had plenty of time to record, produce, mix, master, and release Pop. I do believe claims that the album was unfinished are just excuses to answer why it was so heavily criticized. But maybe they really do believe the record isn't finished. Read what Bono said about If God Will Send His Angels: "Bono originally thought the song was too soft and asked to 'f*** it up,' saying, I thought, this is, like, pure. Now drop acid onto that.'"</span><br />
<span style="background-color: #e7eaef; font-family: "verdana" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 12.48px;"> That doesn't sound at all like the Bono we know now, does it? Interesting that of all people, Bono would be the one to call out a song as being "too soft." Keep in mind, this man wrote songs like Beautiful Day like a couple of years later... Anyway, do I agree? Absolutely. Although the track does give off this, mysterious, eery feeling when featured on an LP with numbers like Discotheque and Mofo on it, If You Wear That Velvet Dress serves the same purpose (and does it better). I'm Not Your Baby or Holy Joe could have easily taken its place on the record and made a great album even better... But now I'm getting sidetracked. Bono obviously pushed for a darker album, which explains the second side of it. I remember him once saying something like, "the album begins at a party and ends at a funeral." Very insightful comment.</span><br />
<span style="background-color: #e7eaef; font-family: "verdana" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif; font-size: 12.48px;"> Had U2 been given just three more months to work on Pop, how different would the record have sounded? Maybe the album would feel even darker, delving even deeper into their experimentation. What does everyone else think? <a href="https://forum.atu2.com/index.php/topic,29545.0.html">link</a></span></blockquote>
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<b><i><b>=Here's a vintage (c. 1999) sermon of mine that <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pete.kuiper?fref=mentions&pnref=story">Pete Kuiper</a> transcribed as it was happening,</b></i></b><br />
<b><i><b>and is including in an upcoming book designed to be a training manual for pastors.</b></i></b><br />
<b><i><b>He'll be breaking it in in the Philippines at a Baptist seminary.</b></i></b><br />
<b><i><b>He includes an analysis and questions in the book, in light of cognitive therapy, and other topics be specializes in. </b></i></b><br />
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<b><i><b>I have to say:</b></i></b><br />
<b><i><b>-I didn't preach from a manuscript (so read it in oral style)</b></i></b><br />
<b><i><b>-I wouldn't preach it this way if I did it again (Cheese alert). It may come off a little Osteeny (lol. I was ahead of my time ).</b></i></b><br />
<b><i><b>-It's kind of an unusual sermon for me. Though I was usually inductive back then, this is more of a "textual" (Genesis 29:34-35) sermon than exegetical/expository. Very risky (eisegesis), but must be done sometimes.</b></i></b><br />
<b><i><b>Your mileage may vary.</b></i></b><br />
<b><i><b>-I have reformatted it a bit from the book.</b></i></b><br />
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<b><i><b>Thanks for the press, Pete!</b></i></b><br />
<b><i><b>I'm honored he remembered...and re-membered..</b></i></b><br />
<b><i><b>a sermon that I had forgotten.</b></i></b><br />
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<b><i><b>First. let me return the favor .Here's some press for Pete><br /> Pete's bio: </b></i></b><br />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">Peter H. Kuiper, LCSW</span></h1>
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<span class="page-desc">Clinical Therapist, Licensed Clinical Social Worker</span>
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<span style="background-color: yellow;"><img alt="Peter H. Kuiper, LCSW" src="http://crossroadscounseling.greenhatja.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2014/11/Pete-Close-Up-120x120.jpg" />
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<span style="background-color: yellow;">Specializes in counseling couples and individual adults using intensive counseling format.</span></h5>
<span style="background-color: yellow;">
</span><span style="background-color: yellow;">Pete is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with over 40 years of
experience in the Christian Mental Health field, including experience as
a special education teacher, therapist, and administrator. Pete
received his bachelor's degree from Calvin College and his Master's in
Social Work from Western Michigan University. In addition to a variety
of outpatient settings, Pete was a program director in several inpatient
psychiatric hospitals, both for Rapha Treatment Centers as well as New
Life Clinics. It was in the inpatient setting where Pete developed his
passion for an intensive approach to therapy. He has seen first-hand the
potential of powerful breakthroughs and lasting results in utilizing
this modality of treatment. For the past 15 years he has been doing
Brief Intensive Counseling in the beautiful mountain town of Buena
Vista, Colorado. It was there that he co-founded CrossRoads Counseling
of the Rockies.</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">
</span><span style="background-color: yellow;">In addition to his full-time therapist role, he also teaches a daily
cognitive therapy group. Pete frequently receives feedback from clients
saying his material is helpful because it is practical rather than just
theoretical, and that his examples and illustrations make it easy for
them to make personal application.</span><br />
<span style="background-color: yellow;">
</span><span style="background-color: yellow;">He and his wife, Marty, have been married for over 40 years and have
two married sons and seven precious grandchildren (pictures available
upon request!). <a href="http://www.crossroadscounseling.net/team-view/peter-h-kuiper/"> link</a></span><br />
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<b><i><b>Worship leader has just read </b></i></b><b style="background-color: #fefdfa; color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><i><b>Genesis 29:34-35...</b></i></b><br />
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<br />
I had a great day last Sunday.<br />
My wife came up to me and said,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“You know, you’re more
handsome than Brad Pitt.<br />
…and you can preach better than Billy Graham,”<br />
I had a great day.<br />
<br />
And then some of you came up to me after church and said,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“You know, you’re more handsome
than Tom Cruise,<br />
…and you can preach better than Wesley.”<br />
I was having a great day.<br />
<br />
And then I was greeting some of the first time visitors, <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and some of them knelt before
me and said exclaimed, <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“You know, You’re more
handsome than an angel,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>you<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>can preach better than St. Paul.”<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I
was having a<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>great day..<br />
<br />
And then..<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I woke up.<br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And I think I’ll settle for being a
little more handsome than my high school photo,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and a little better preacher than I was last
year.<br />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So it is with all of us.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>People want to take a number and
stand in line just to tell us how wonderful we are<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>—in our dreams.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I met a girl one time who I just had
to impress.<br />
And I did something I had to do<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>—I bought a sport coat, and I put on
cologne.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But something must have
worked…<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>because she married me. <br />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br />
Have you ever done this—said,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“If I just do this,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>or say that;<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>if I adjust this<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>or perfect that, <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>then maybe
they’ll love me?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>A little less weight, a little less
gray,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>a little less belly you might say,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>a little more hair and a little more
style,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>that’s what it’s all about,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“ someone love me.” . . . <br />
Primping and preening: it’s about<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“someone love me.”<br />
<br />
You know what, that’s what graffiti is all about.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It’s<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>undecipherable, all those scribbles and scrawls,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>you don’t know what it means.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’ll tell you what it means:<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Someone<br />
Anyone...<br />
love me. <br />
<br />
That’s what gangs are often about: <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Someone love me.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That’s what<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>teenage rebellion,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>teenage pregnancy,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>teenage suicide<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>are <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>often about: <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Someone love me.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That’s what<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>pre-marital,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>extra marital,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>post-marital affairs <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>are
about.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Someone love me.<br />
<br />
What won’t we do to get someone to love us?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Sell someone a line of goods,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>sell ourselves short,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>sell our bodies to another, <br />
our soul to the devil?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Because how deep is that cry,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>deep inside,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Someone,
please…………… love me.”<br />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And probably the hardest words
pastors and counselors have to hear on a regular basis:<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>he doesn’t love me.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>she doesn’t love me<br />
any more.<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Especially if it’s a husband <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>saying this of a wife,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>or a wife claiming this of <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>a husband.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Have you ever had to say it, <br />
pray it<br />
admit it?<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There’s a woman I know of,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>her husband was really ignoring her, <br />
and not giving her the attention that she should have.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>What could she do but resign herself
to the inevitable?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>What could she say, what could she pray,
but<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“He doesn’t love me.”<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In spite of this relationship<br />
which was less than perfect,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>she had a baby,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and she said,<br />
“Aha…, this should do it,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>this should make a
difference,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>this should win his love.”<br />
<br />
Have you ever found yourself saying something like this?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Surely now that I’ve done this, <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’ll win his
love.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Maybe since I’ve done that,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>surely he’ll respect me now.”<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Surely he’ll give me more attention
now,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>surely he’ll change his mind now.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Surely
he’ll love me now.” <br />
Ever said that<br />
?<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You do what you need to—<br />
you get a hair cut,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>you get a suit,<br />
get a dress, <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>you get
religion.<br />
<br />
And/or…<br />
You do what she did:<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>you
get pregnant. <br />
That’s what she did. Had a baby.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Didn’t work<br />
Had another one, and said, <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Surely
he’ll love me now.”<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Didn’t work.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Had another baby. <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Didn’t work.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You feel like you know that woman?. .
.<br />
<br />
You know her name:<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Leah.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And most significantly, you know and
can relate to her situation,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>her heart crying out:<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>someone love me. <br />
And you know the bondage of needing <br />
someone to love you, <br />
and doing something<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>in hopes that<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>it’ll work………….and it doesn’t ever
work.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And she had <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>still another baby,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>a fourth.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But this time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Leah discovered the secret of getting
free of that bondage of needing<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>people to love her,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>or to make her feel significant.<br />
<br />
Verse 35. What does it say?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This time I’ll win him over? <br />
No. <br />
This time will be the charm? <br />
No.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This time the baby will endear my
husband to me? <br />
No.<br />
This time I’ll leave that macho idiot a lesson <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>………..<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>as I leave him at home with four screaming
kids and I go to the mall?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>No.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>it will be different.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I won’t be bound by what he thinks. <br />
This time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’ll give up my longing to what I
can’t control anyway.<br />
<br />
This time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I won’t waste my time. <br />
This time I’ll choose that path to inner, hilarious freedom. <br />
This time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I won’t seek the praise of another.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“This time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>I’ll praise the Lord”<br />
Wow.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Do you hear that?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Do you sense her posture,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>her demeanor,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>everything about her<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>change? <br />
<br />
“This time,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’m free from what others think.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>it doesn’t really ultimately matter
if my husband loves me.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This time <br />
I know where my acceptance lies. <br />
This time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I don’t have to praise another so he
can praise me back.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This time, <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’ll praise
the Lord.”<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And she stopped having children,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>She didn’t need to.<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And wouldn’t it be wonderful <br />
if that dream I made up really came true?<br />
And People came up to us on the streets and said,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Aren’t you wonderful?” <br />
But even better, if that never happens to us, <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>we might <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>learn that attitude deep in our souls that
says<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“I don’t need the praise of another;<br />
I need to<br />
<br />
praise <br />
<br />
the Lord.”<br />
<br />
<br />
A burglar broke into a home.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He didn’t want to turn on the lights,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>so as he used a flashlight .<br />
He heard something that scared him and stunned him.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It was a voice that said,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“I see you. And Jesus sees you.” <br />
He was frightened, and <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>began to run, <br />
until the beam of his<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>flashlight
revealed <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>the source of this voice,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and to his <br />
shock..<br />
relief..<br />
and amusement, <br />
he saw..<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>a parrot in his cage, saying <br />
<br />
“I see you, and Jesus sees you.”<br />
<br />
But then focused the flashlight beam <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>beneath the cage,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and there was:<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>a snarling pit bull.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And the parrot said,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Sic ‘em, Jesus.”<br />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Jesus<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>sees<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>you.<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You can’t hide from him.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He’s caught you red-handed.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And we’ve all burglarized the kingdom.
<br />
<br />
And he sees us in the light<br />
. And because he does, he has every right to sic us, to get us.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But does he do it? <br />
No.<br />
<br />
He looks at us..<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and loves
us!!<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Incredible.<br />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br />
He made it himself,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>from popsicle sticks and pieces of sheets.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>That’s how this little boy made a
sailboat. <br />
And he loved it.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It was his most incredible, precious
possession.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>One day as he was playing with it on
the river his family lived next to,<br />
it floated away from him beyond his reach.<br />
Devastated.<br />
His heart sank. <br />
What does he do?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He follows the stream<br />
down to the next town,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>where he finds his boat<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>in the window of a pawnshop.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“That’s my boat, sir, give me back my
boat!”<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Sorry son, I paid someone for this
boat.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You’ll have to buy it back.” <br />
<br />
So the boy hurried home,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>got all his money from his piggy
bank<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and
returned to the store. <br />
As he walks out of the store with the boat under his arm, he says,<br />
<br />
“I love you two times over.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>First I made you,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>t<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>hen I bought you.”<br />
<br />
And Jesus…………..<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>loves us two times over.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He made us,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and through the cross,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>he bought us.<br />
<br />
But like Leah,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>do you ever feel <br />
“He doesn’t love me any more” is true of..<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Jesus?<br />
<br />
You know what? <br />
<br />
It <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">is</b> <br />
true of Jesus!<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He doesn’t love you any more, <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>he can’t love you any more,
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>he won’t love you any
less or more <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>depending
on what you do or don’t do.<br />
<br />
He doesn’t need to love you any more,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>he already loves you <br />
with an undying love that died for you. <br />
He already loves you<br />
with a perfect love;<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>he always and already loves you, <br />
more than you can ask or imagine or dream or pray, <br />
he’s<br />
absolutely, <br />
unconditionally, <br />
habitually ,<br />
in love with you, <br />
and<br />
you can’t do anything about it.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He doesn’t love you any more than
that.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He sees you and your intrinsic worth:<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>he made you, and he bought you.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He doesn’t need to love you any more
than that. <br />
He can’t possibly love you any more than that.<br />
<br />
So, along with Leah,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>have you come to realize that<br />
someone can’t be made to love you?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You know, someone can’t be made to
love you! <br />
But hear this, ]<br />
and <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>feel free to shout “Amen” if you
really believe it:<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>someone can’t be made to love you,<br />
but someone who made you, loves you. <br />
someone can’t be made to love you,<br />
but someone who made you, loves you.<br />
<br />
Someone who made you, and sees you as you are, <br />
died for you.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Someone who loves you two times over,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>can’t love you any more.<br />
Jesus<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>bought you, saught you, caught
you.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So..along<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>with Leah,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>are we grasped by the Holy Spirit
with crazy good news? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><br />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>How about this?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Have you ever twisted someone’s arm
to win them?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There is Someone who had his arms twisted,
to win you!<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>More than his arms were twisted, <br />
he had nails in his arms and his feet,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and he was speared. <br />
Why?<br />
<br />
Because he loves you.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He can’t possibly love you any more than
this.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The cross shows me, he absolutely
cannot love me /you/us any more..<br />
any more<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>than that.<br />
He doesn’t love you any more than that.<br />
<br />
Toledo Times; Three random want ads. <br />
“Wanted: 57 Chevy.”<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Wanted: housekeeper, 10 hours a
week.”<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Wanted: someone, anyone, to love
me.”<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Like Leah<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>have you ever placed a plea, a
prayer, <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>an ad like that?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>When you’re looking<br />
for someone to love you,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>does Jesus cross your mind? <br />
He’d better cross your mind, because hear this:<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Jesus loves you so much, <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>he didn’t mind the
cross<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He doesn’t love you any more than
that. <br />
That’s already a love that no height,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>nor depth, <br />
nor principality or power <br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>can separate us from. <br />
He couldn’t<br />
love us any <br />
more.<br />
<br />
There is a heretical,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>unchristian,<br />
unacceptable,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>almost unforgivable<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>theological position<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>that some of you are holding.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Right now,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>if it is your position<br />
that you are unlovable,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I have a command from <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>no one less than the Lord God: <br />
fall on your knees and literally change your position.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Don’t talk about a precious creation
of God like that. <br />
He loves you and knit you together in your mother’s womb,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and God in Jesus Christ loves you.<br />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br />
So can you learn this lesson from Leah?<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Someone already loves you with a
better than perfect love.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Someone can’t love you any more. <br />
Someone is unconditionally in love with you. <br />
And he need not love you any more.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Because he looks at you, and loves
you.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He made you, and he bought you.<br />
He doesn’t love you any more.<br />
<br />
You can’t earn it. Can’t turn it away.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Can’t win it. Can’t sin it away.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Cannot outspend it, He’ll always
extend it.<br />
<br />
Don’t wrestle for it, just nestle in it,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Don’t try to win it with a religion
of good works,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>for religion is not good enough and
never works.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Jesus Christ loves you and he can’t
possibly, can’t even, doesn’t need to,<br />
doesn’t have to<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>love you any more. <br />
<br />
He already loves you<br />
with a love that surpasses understanding.<br />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br />
. So if that’s true,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>like Leah,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>can we say with nthusiasm, with
encouragement, with conviction,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“This time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’ll give up<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>trying to please everyone and their
mother.<br />
<br />
I’ll hang up <br />
my efforts to earn anybody’s love.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’m fed up <br />
with my efforts to meet others’ approval to be a legitimate person.”<br />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br />
That dream I told you about<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>—let’s turn it into a nightmare for a
moment..<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>One day,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>without warning,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>your spouse, your best friend, your
child, your fiancé<br />
—one day, they look you square in the<br />
eye and they say,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“I don’t love you.” <br />
They even say,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“I hate you, I never want to see you
again.” <br />
I can’t see you anymore.”<br />
<br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" />
<br />
They walk out of the door of your life, <br />
and as the door slams,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and it’s like a prison door,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and all you can hear is the refrain of
the door slamming..<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and the words:<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“I don’t love you.”<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So you go to work or school, wherever
you go on a regular basis, <br />
and expect to find one friend, <br />
but everyone in unison looks at you and says, <br />
in unison ..<br />
“We don’t love you, be gone.”<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You’re frantic.<br />
And so you go to the one place—it’s Sunday morning—<br />
where you can expect friends.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You come here to church. <br />
You see friends you’ve prayed with,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>people you’ve wept with,<br />
people you’ve been through the crucible of life with, <br />
who’ve baptized you and blessed you,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and here, one by one,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>they march out that back door,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>they storm out,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>they look at you<br />
and turn and scream and say,<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“I don’t love you anymore!”<br />
<br />
Now if this should happen to you, and it should not,<br />
……….but there’s no guarantee it will not in this life..<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>can we,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>like Leah,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>say, <br />
<br />
“<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">This time</b>, <br />
I know where my ultimate acceptance comes from.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>this time,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I know <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>from where and who my affirmation comes,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>this time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I know it is who loves me,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>this time I won’t be bound by others.
<br />
Someone loves me.<br />
<br />
This time,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>someone can’t be made to love me.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But someone who made me loves me.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I can forget twisting someone’s arm
to win me,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>because Someone had his arms twisted
on the cross to win me.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>His name is?<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Jesus.<br />
<br />
And if my position is that I’m unlovable,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>in the name of Jesus I’m going to
cancel that position,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>change that position,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>get on my knees in a new position and
repent and say <br />
“Jesus, you love me.” <br />
<br />
No matter what anyone thinks, <br />
no matter if my husband or wife walks out of my life forever,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>no matter what happens,<br />
<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’ll celebrate that there is one who
looks at me,<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>and loves me.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There is one who’s name is Jesus, <br />
who doesn’t<br />
love me any more<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>than perfectly.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And we can say, <br />
“This time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I won’t even bother seeking the
praise of another.<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>This time<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>because He can’t
possibly love me<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>any<br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>more..<br />
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">this time</b><br />
<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I’ll praise the
Lord.” <br />
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davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-72144644850978640182017-07-28T16:03:00.000-07:002017-07-28T16:03:11.104-07:00"5 Passages Your Pastor Wishes You'd Stop Taking out of Context"<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-34791401275975983762017-07-24T09:42:00.003-07:002017-07-24T09:44:27.248-07:00cities as "solitary places that are populated by millions"<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left; margin-right: 1em; text-align: left;"><tbody>
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"I was riding the subway on the way to the studio and noticed a man walking along the carriage leaning forward into the motion of the train. Life is always a question of balance and orientation--even in New York where everything is signposted, it is still easy to lose your way.<br />
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Cities offer many distractions away from our essential needs which feed the hungry soul; It may not be the nourishment for which we are really searching, but when hungry we search for that which is closest.<br />
<br />
Losing yourself and finding yourself are separated only by a thin line; in New York that line is especially thin.<br />
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There are solitary places that are populated by millions."<br />
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-David Fields, liner notes for "<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Sleeps-Various-Artists/dp/B0012GMXB0">The Planet Sleeps"</a><br />
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See also:<br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/dead-man-aboard-m-rush-subway-corpse-rode-no-1-train-hours-article-1.839339">DEAD MAN ABOARD A.M. RUSH SUBWAY CORPSE RODE THE NO. 1 TRAIN FOR HOURS</a></span></h1>
<br />davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21118726.post-19830734111895289102017-07-21T18:41:00.000-07:002017-07-21T18:41:12.772-07:00Bruce Cockburn on faithI highly recommend <a href="http://www.cathleenfalsani.com/">Cathleen Falsani's </a>writings and interviews.
Here's audio (transcript<a href="http://www.cathleenfalsani.com/?p=36057"> here</a>) of a 2006 interview she did with Bruce Cockburn<iframe frameborder="no" height="450" scrolling="no" src="https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/56654163&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true" width="100%"></iframe>davehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07135992921485306480noreply@blogger.com1