Shane, Ray, and Rob: subverting empire, surveying 666

It is debated whether

• Shane Claiborne (see his reading of emperor coronation process into the crucixion timeline...PS, our audio interview with Shane is here).
  

• Ray Van Der Laan (see this, for one) and
  

• Rob Bell (see this sermon on Revelation, for example)

go too far (the first two draw heavily on Thomas Schmidt) in reading subversive satire of emperor/empire into the NT.

some thing seems clear:

saying "Jesus is Lord" in the old days meant two things..
the first is obvious.
The second is killer: "Ceasar is not."

and

"666"'s fundamemtal meaning is "Nero Ceaser"


ON A LIGHTER NOTE:
Shane, Ray and Rob..

Maybe those three could sing as a trio...the three Empire-Subverting Guys could even record with the three Catholic girls from my previous post... (: