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Monday, May 05, 2014

Pope Francis on judging..or not

On the question of what the pope really said/meant (and didn't) in his famous/infamous "Who am I to judge" quote..

See Terry Mattingly's article, Journalists editing Pope Francis: Who are we to judge?:
 ...Based on my reading, it appears that the pope’s remarks center on contrasting the struggles of a humble sinner seeking a relationship with God with that of a public activist in a lobby trying to make a political point.   full article

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Francis wasn’t talking about all homosexuals everywhere.
There’s a lot of talk about the gay lobby, but I’ve never seen it on the Vatican ID card.
When I meet a gay person, I have to distinguish between their being gay and being part of a lobby. If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them?They shouldn’t be marginalized. The tendency is not the problem … they’re our brothers.  l
If they “accept the Lord”, and “have goodwill”… pretty clearly meaning, “if they are trying to live a good Christian life”, which involves continency and chastity, then I can’t point a finger at them and say they are evil, etc.  ”Who am I to judge?”, depends on what went before in the same sentence.  It doesnot mean, “Anyone can do anything and we don’t have a right to make a moral judgement.”  link

I still can't find another article which helpfully tried to translate this accutarately and in context.  arrgghh.

In the meantime, see :

  • “Who am I to judge?”, thrown in your face? Fr. Z says, “Don’t let them get away with it!”
  • Pope Francis AGAIN: “Who am I to judge?”
  • lost in translation
  • What Pope Francis could not mean regarding gay priests and what he actually said

  • HAS POPE FRANCIS' MESSAGE BEEN LOST IN TRANSLATION?





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