(HT to Richard Beck)
Spent some time on this passage, and context, before you scroll to down to discover and consider N.T.Wright's interpretation.
Key question:
Who does Jesus mean us to understand is the "him" who has authority to throw you into hell?
Start with these three translations (lifted from
BibleGateway.com )
It's clear from The Message and The NASB that they read it as God, The Message takes 'him" as God, NASB styles it as "The One" (nice Neo touch, btw).
Who do you say "him" is?
Related: Who is the one who can "kill the body"?
Note: click the drop-down box to compare other translations
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Luke 12:4-7
New International Version (NIV)
4 “I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. 5 But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him.6 Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. 7 Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.
The MESSAGE 4-5 “I’m speaking to you as dear friends. Don’t be bluffed into silence or insincerity by the threats of religious bullies. True, they can kill you, but then what can they do? There’s nothing they can do to your soul, your core being. Save your fear for God, who holds your entire life—body and soul—in his hands.
6-7 “What’s the price of two or three pet canaries? Some loose change, right? But God never overlooks a single one. And he pays even greater attention to you, down to the last detail—even numbering the hairs on your head! So don’t be intimidated by all this bully talk. You’re worth more than a million canaries
---Amuzgo de Guerrero (AMU)--- Amuzgo de Guerrero ---العربية (AR)--- Arabic Bible: Easy-to-Read Version Arabic Life Application Bible ---अवधी (AWA)--- Awadhi Bible: Easy-to-Read Version ---Български (BG)--- 1940 Bulgarian Bible Bulgarian Bible Bulgarian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version Bulgarian Protestant Bible ---Chinanteco de Comaltepec (CCO)--- Chinanteco de Comaltepec ---Cebuano (CEB)--- Ang Pulong Sa Dios ---ᏣᎳᎩ ᎦᏬᏂᎯᏍ (CHR)--- Cherokee New Testament ---Cakchiquel Occidental (CKW)--- Cakchiquel Occidental ---Čeština (CS)--- Bible 21 Slovo na cestu ---Dansk (DA)--- Bibelen på hverdagsdansk Dette er Biblen på dansk ---Deutsch (DE)--- Hoffnung für Alle Luther Bibel 1545 Neue Genfer Übersetzung Schlachter 1951 Schlachter 2000 ---English (EN)--- 21st Century King James Version American Standard Version Amplified Bible Common English Bible Complete Jewish Bible Contemporary English Version Darby Translation Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition Easy-to-Read Version English Standard Version English Standard Version Anglicised Expanded Bible 1599 Geneva Bible GOD’S WORD Translation Good News Translation Holman Christian Standard Bible J.B. Phillips New Testament Jubilee Bible 2000 King James Version Authorized (King James) Version Lexham English Bible Living Bible The Message Mounce Reverse-Interlinear New Testament Names of God Bible New American Standard Bible New Century Version New English Translation (NET Bible) New International Reader's Version New International Version New International Version - UK New King James Version New Life Version New Living Translation New Revised Standard Version New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised Catholic Edition New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition Orthodox Jewish Bible Revised Standard Version Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition The Voice World English Bible Worldwide English (New Testament) Wycliffe Bible Young's Literal Translation ---Español (ES)--- La Biblia de las Américas Dios Habla Hoy Jubilee Bible 2000 (Spanish) Nueva Biblia Latinoamericana de Hoy Nueva Traducción Viviente Nueva Versión Internacional Nueva Versión Internacional (Castilian) Palabra de Dios para Todos La Palabra (España) La Palabra (Hispanoamérica) Reina Valera Contemporánea Reina-Valera 1960 Reina Valera 1977 Reina-Valera 1995 Reina-Valera Antigua Traducción en lenguaje actual ---Suomi (FI)--- Raamattu 1933/38 ---Français (FR)--- La Bible du Semeur Louis Segond Nouvelle Edition de Genève – NEG1979 Segond 21 ---Κοινη (GRC)--- 1550 Stephanus New Testament 1881 Westcott-Hort New Testament 1894 Scrivener New Testament SBL Greek New Testament ---עיברית (HE)--- Habrit Hakhadasha/Haderekh The Westminster Leningrad Codex ---हिन्दी (HI)--- Hindi Bible: Easy-to-Read Version ---Ilonggo (HIL)--- Ang Pulong Sang Dios ---Hrvatski (HR)--- Knijga O Kristu ---Kreyòl ayisyen (HT)--- Haitian Creole Version ---Magyar (HU)--- Hungarian Károli Hungarian Bible: Easy-to-Read Version Hungarian New Translation ---Hawai‘i Pidgin (HWC)--- Hawai‘i Pidgin ---Íslenska (IS)--- Icelandic Bible ---Italiano (IT)--- La Bibbia della Gioia Conferenza Episcopale Italiana La Nuova Diodati Nuova Riveduta 1994 Nuova Riveduta 2006 ---Jacalteco, Oriental (JAC)--- Jacalteco, Oriental ---Kekchi (KEK)--- Kekchi ---Latina (LA)--- Biblia Sacra Vulgata ---Māori (MI)--- Maori Bible ---Македонски (MK)--- Macedonian New Testament ---मराठी (MR)--- Marathi Bible: Easy-to-Read Version ---Mam, Central (MVC)--- Mam, Central ---Mam, Todos Santos (MVJ)--- Mam de Todos Santos Chuchumatán ---Plautdietsch (NDS)--- Reimer 2001 ---नेपाली (NE)--- Nepali Bible: Easy-to-Read Version ---Náhuatl de Guerrero (NGU)--- Náhuatl de Guerrero ---Nederlands (NL)--- Het Boek ---Norsk (NO)--- Det Norsk Bibelselskap 1930 En Levende Bok ---ଓଡ଼ିଆ (OR)--- Oriya Bible: Easy-to-Read Version ---ਪੰਜਾਬੀ (PA)--- Punjabi Bible: Easy-to-Read Version ---Polski (PL)--- Nowe Przymierze Słowo Życia ---Nawat (PPL)--- Ne Bibliaj Tik Nawat ---Português (PT)--- João Ferreira de Almeida Atualizada Nova Versão Internacional O Livro Portuguese New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Quichua (QU)--- Mushuj Testamento Diospaj Shimi ---Quiché, Centro Occidenta (QUT)--- Quiché, Centro Occidental ---Română (RO)--- Cornilescu Nouă Traducere În Limba Română ---Русский (RU)--- Russian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version Russian Synodal Version Slovo Zhizny ---Slovenčina (SK)--- Nádej pre kazdého ---Somali (SO)--- Somali Bible ---Shqip (SQ)--- Albanian Bible ---Српски (SR)--- Serbian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Svenska (SV)--- Nya Levande Bibeln Svenska 1917 Svenska Folkbibeln ---Kiswahili (SW)--- Neno: Bibilia Takatifu ---தமிழ் (TA)--- Tamil Bible: Easy-to-Read Version ---ภาษาไทย (TH)--- Thai New Contemporary Bible Thai New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---Tagalog (TL)--- Ang Salita ng Diyos ---Twi (TWI)--- Nkwa Asem ---Українська (UK)--- Ukrainian Bible Ukrainian New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version ---اردو (UR)--- Urdu Bible: Easy-to-Read Version ---Uspanteco (USP)--- Uspanteco ---Tiêng Viêt (VI)--- 1934 Vietnamese Bible Bản Dịch 2011 Vietnamese Bible: Easy-to-Read Version ---汉语 (ZH)--- Chinese Contemporary Bible Chinese New Testament: Easy-to-Read Version Chinese New Version (Traditional) Chinese Standard Bible (Simplified) Chinese Standard Bible (Traditional) Chinese Union Version (Simplified) Chinese Union Version (Traditional) Chinese Union Version Modern Punctuation (Simplified) Chinese Union Version Modern Punctuation (Traditional)
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Luke 12:4-7
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
4 “I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that have no more that they can do. 5 But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who, after He has killed, has authority to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him! 6 Are not five sparrows sold for two cents? Yet not one of them is forgotten before God. 7 Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Do not fear; you are more valuable than many sparrows.
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N.T. weighs in:
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Some have seen 'the one who can cast into Gehenna' as YHWH; but this is unrealistic. Jesus did not, to be sure, perceive Israel's god as a kindly liberal godfather who would never hurt a fly, let alone send anyone to Gehenna. But again and again--not least in the very next verse of this paragraph--Israel's god is portrayed as the creator and sustainer, one who can be lovingly trusted in all circumstance, not one who waits with a large stick to beat anyone who steps out of line. Rather, here we have a redefinition of the battle in terms of the identification of the real enemy. The one who can kill the body is the imagined enemy, Rome. Who then is the real enemy? Surely not Israel's own god. The real enemy is the accuser, the satan. - --N.T. Wright, Jesus and the Victory of God , pp. 454-455
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