It is debated whether
- Shane Claiborne (see his reading of emperor coronation process into the crucixion timeline...PS, our audio interview with Shane is here).
- Ray Van Der Laan (see this, for one) and
- Rob Bell (see this sermon on Revelation, for example)
go too far (the first two draw heavily on Thomas Schmidt) in reading subversive satire of emperor/empire into the NT.
some thing seems clear:
saying "Jesus is Lord" in the old days meant two things..
the first is obvious.
The second is killer: "Ceasar is not."
and
"666"'s fundamemtal meaning is "Nero Ceaser"
ON A LIGHTER NOTE:
Shane, Ray and Rob..
Maybe those three could sing as a trio...the three Empire-Subverting Guys could even record with the three Catholic girls from my previous post... (:
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