Excerpt of interview with Myron Penner:
Q: To begin with, what sort of book is this and why did you write it?
I adopt what I call a “postmodern” perspective in this book, which I
realize is a bit of a contentious place to start. But I mean something
very specific by that. By postmodern I mean the awareness of the
contingency or the problematic nature of the so-called modern project.
Soren Kierkegaard
And I wrote the book because that’s where I am at. I no longer see
how modern apologetics (and by that I mean the attempt to give reasons
for Christian belief that are objective, universal, and neutral) is
really all that helpful – for me or anyone else.
It began for me when I came across Søren Kierkegaard’s statement that
whoever came up with the idea of defending Christianity in modernity is
a second Judas who betrays the Christ under the guise of a friendly
kiss; only, he adds, the apologist’s treachery (unlike Judas’s) is “the
treason of stupidity.” At first this shocked and fascinated me. I wanted
to try to understand what Kierkegaard meant by that, because it somehow
sounded right to me. So I wrote the book.
Q: What would you say is the conceptual core of your book?
The key to my book lies in my assertion that modern reason – which I
describe as objective, universal, and neutral – is something distinct
from other conceptions of reason. It, therefore, is just one way of
thinking about human reason, not the way. It is also a secular way to understand reason because we imagine it to be immune or separable from faith.
We usually just assume that what we believe counts as a good reason
to believe something is natural, obvious, and the only way to think
about it. But I find that assumption mistaken and deeply problematic.
And ultimately, I believe that this way of thinking about reason is not
the best way to be faithful to biblical faith. So I suggest that it is
time to change paradigms.
I am therefore against apologetics insofar as it suggests –
explicitly or implicitly – that what makes Christianity believable or
worthy of our belief is that it is somehow grounded in human rational capabilities.
There are all sorts of problems that come when we try to ground
anything – but especially the Gospel – in the modern form of reason. And
I try to spell out some of those problems in the book.
Q: When do you mean by saying you are “against“ apologetics?
It all hinges on Kierkegaard’s distinction between a genius and an
apostle. Kierkegaard sees quite clearly that the modern form of
authority for belief derives from genius – or what we might call
“experts,” leaders in their fields. We believe what they tell us to
believe because they know more than the rest of us they are more
brilliant, intelligent, rational, insightful, etc.
Kierkegaard contrasts this with the Christian source of belief which
comes from apostles, who differ from genius in that they do not ground
their authority in their own talents or merits. Their message comes from
God so the reasons they give are grounded differently than those of the
genius.
We believe the Christian message is true, Kierkegaard says, not
because it is brilliant or rationally grounded (in the modern sense),
but because it is true, it comes from God. So I am really against the
entire modern epistemological paradigm that produces modern apologetics,
because it attempts to ground faith in genius or secular reason. The
problem with modern apologetics is that, because it operates from the
same (secular) grounds as modernity, it offers no real solution to
modern issues. FULL INTERVIEW
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