Are these two short clips related?
Len Hjalmarson on the Gospel, the Center and Certainty..."about certainty and salvation, and our need to measure and 'know' where someone is at in contrast to faith and pilgrimage."
(also see set theory):
Tim Keller at a Veritas Forum, on "Religion is a Problem in the World", including the three steps from faith to oppressing others who are unlike you (uh, also see set theory):
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